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How far can you break? - 01-23-2013, 11:16 PM

Imagine a pooltable that is hundreds of meters long. How far do you think you can break? Breaking straight would be important here too. Every degree you're off means you'll get less far..


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01-23-2013, 11:34 PM

I think I could hit the one ball dead on, jump the cue ball back to the exact center of the table while pocketing the 3, 6 & 7 balls.
I have a perfect shot on the one and run out.
  
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01-23-2013, 11:51 PM

You said hundreds of meters long. I think I could break to the end of a two hundred meter table and bounce all the way back for a perfect lag, frozen to the rail.
  
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01-23-2013, 11:59 PM

Im serious, I wonder how far it will roll. It can probaby be calculated but I dont know the math (or the physics) to do it.

My guess is that I'll make 100m.


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01-24-2013, 12:10 AM

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Im serious, I wonder how far it will roll. It can probaby be calculated but I dont know the math (or the physics) to do it.

My guess is that I'll make 100m.
I think you should tell us the weight of the cloth and how tight it is stretched....and the thickness of the slate.
And the temperature is an influence also.


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01-24-2013, 12:23 AM

Thats true.. well lets say it are the US open conditions. The same hall but very long stretched, same air conditions, fresh Simonis cloth (any chalk has been taken off by chalk-off GET YOUR CH-never mind), same thickness of the slate. And we all break on that same table (although its magically renewed for every shot).


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01-24-2013, 12:25 AM

I can only guess, but it feels that the first 20m the cueball is travelling at about max speed, and from there it will slow down. 80m of rolling is alot.. maybe my 100m is to much.


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01-24-2013, 12:30 AM

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I can only guess, but it feels that the first 20m the cueball is travelling at about max speed, and from there it will slow down. 80m of rolling is alot.. maybe my 100m is to much.
The cue ball speed is highest just after contacting the cue tip, after that, it starts to slow down.

I have thought about it too, would be interesting to know.
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lets see now. - 01-24-2013, 12:45 AM

When I was a youngster I could throw a baseball around 80 mph. The outfield fence was 420 at it's deepest in left center. I could get it to home plate, not on the fly or even the hop but on the roll. Pool cloth would give more distance on the roll. So lets see if that ball was hitting and rolling on a pool table like surface....lets be generous and say another 80 feet.My fastest break is like around 23 mph. So round my break speed up to 25 and my baseball throw down to 75 mph. So 1/3 of 500 feet would be 167 feet which would be 51 meters.

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01-24-2013, 01:00 AM

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When I was a youngster I could throw a baseball around 80 mph. The outfield fence was 420 at it's deepest in left center. I could get it to home plate, not on the fly or even the hop but on the roll. Pool cloth would give more distance on the roll. So lets see if that ball was hitting and rolling on a pool table like surface....lets be generous and say another 80 feet.My fastest break is like around 23 mph. So round my break speed up to 25 and my baseball throw down to 75 mph. So 1/3 of 500 feet would be 167 feet which would be 51 meters.

51 meters
I don't think you are being generous enough. There is wayyy more friction on a baseball field.

I'm thinking I could break 80 yards.
  
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01-24-2013, 01:16 AM

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I don't think you are being generous enough. There is wayyy more friction on a baseball field.

I'm thinking I could break 80 yards.
Could be, just a WAG for fun.
Besides I was just sandbagging. I'll see your 80 and raise you 5!
  
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01-24-2013, 01:19 AM

Could be a challenge for Mythbusters.
  
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01-24-2013, 01:29 AM

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Could be a challenge for Mythbusters.
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Lightbulb i Tink - 01-24-2013, 02:27 AM

I am no math wiz, but isn't S= D/T ??
Then D= S*T given a drag co-efficient for the cloth (who knows what that is?)

oh,..... D = Distance
S= Speed
T= Time

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01-24-2013, 03:27 AM

that is true for a continuous speed.

s = 1/2 a t^2

if I remember correctly.

s = distance
a = acceleration
t = time

but this doesnt involve friction. or is the friction within a?

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