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Russians still meddling in our elections - 06-13-2018, 04:45 AM

If this is true it looks kind of bad when we request them back into G7.
Perhaps we should cut off all communications and put high tariffs on all their
goods. There needs to be a punishment for it.

https://nypost.com/2018/06/12/muelle...our-elections/

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Russian intelligence agencies are still interfering with the US election process, according to special counsel Robert Mueller — who warned of “future operations” in a court filing on Tuesday.

“Uncharged individuals and entities” are said to be behind the electoral meddling, and Mueller’s office is actively trying to put a stop to it.

Prosecutors have filed a motion to block a Russian firm indicted for election interference from getting its hands on highly sensitive evidence and data pertaining to the case. They claim that doing so could put some of the involved parties at risk and compromise ongoing and future investigations.

“[T]he substance of the government’s evidence identifies uncharged individuals and entities that the government believes are continuing to engage in interference operations like those charged in the present indictment,” Mueller wrote in the filing.

His team has asked a federal judge to impose limits on what information can be shared with Concord Management and Consulting LLC, which is the only defendant to appear in the Russian interference criminal case.

The government wants to also block the other defendants — such as wealthy businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin — from accessing the materials until they are able to appear in court.

The information in question includes social media account info, email addresses, names of internet providers, banks, identities of Americans and other “unclassified but sensitive” data “relevant to ongoing national security investigations and efforts to protect the integrity of future US elections.”

Concord is accused of funding a Russian social media campaign to help sow political discord during the 2016 presidential election. The company has not responded to any requests for comment.

Also another article has popped up on it. https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-kor...004411454.html


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06-13-2018, 06:14 AM

This article goes in much more detail. Aren't we concerned about the interference into our elections?

As North Korea danger recedes ever so slightly, renewed Russian threat looms

https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-kor...004411454.html

Alexander NazaryanNational Correspondent ,Yahoo News•June 12, 2018
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Adam Hickey, deputy assistant attorney general in the national security division, testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee on July 26, 2017. (Photo: Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call)
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As the world anxiously watched the summit between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore, American legislators and national security officials focused on another nation that poses a threat to global stability: Russia.

The Senate Judiciary Committee convened a hearing Tuesday that focused on the uneasy realization that Russia, emboldened by its ability to alter the results of the 2016 U.S. presidential election, is almost certain to try again in the 2018 midterms.

One of the witnesses, former homeland security adviser Kenneth Wainstein, asked the legislators arrayed before him to put aside their political differences and unify to beat back future Russian intrusions. “We are facing an unprecedented and growing threat to our democratic institutions both here and around the globe,” Wainstein said.

But for many Democrats, the Trump administration has simply not acknowledged the extent of the danger — or its source. Sen. Richard Blumenthal, Democrat of Connecticut, pressed deputy assistant attorney general Adam Hickey on whether he agreed that Moscow had “committed an act of war” — and would do so again unless “the United States makes Russia pay a price.”

“We have to find ways to raise costs of malicious and malign behavior by foreign states,” Hickey acknowledged, though he did not elaborate on what those measures might be. More troublingly, Hickey dodged a question from Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., regarding the allegation of some 5 million illegal votes cast in the 2016 presidential election. President Trump believes that there was rampant fraud in Democratic states like New York and California. That belief is unfounded.

Hickey did promise that that the Department of Justice would publish a report on “foreign influence operations” by mid-July. Despite the president’s hesitation to name Russia as the world’s premier cyber culprit, the Trump administration has levied sanctions on some wealthy Russians. It has closed Russian consulates in the United States and expelled Russian diplomats, but the Kremlin has given no indication that it was especially perturbed by these measures.


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Other witnesses at Tuesday’s hearing suggested that defensive measures, not retaliatory ones, were best equipped to inoculate the American body politic against a Russian attack. “The best response to those who wish to undermine faith in our democracy is to participate and to vote,” said Matthew Masterson, a high-ranking Department of Homeland Security official tasked with overseeing election integrity at the agency. Deviating from the otherwise pessimistic mood of the hearing — and of the broader discourse about the electoral process in the national media — Masterson expressed confidence in state and municipal officials who he said are working to ensure that the nation’s 11,000 election systems are safe.

“Every state I travel to, state official I talk to, is taking this seriously,” Masterson said before an overflow crowd in the hearing room on the second floor of the Dirksen Senate Office Building. Notably, there were plenty of seats left on the Republican side of the bench, with only Charles Grassley of Iowa, who chairs the committee, present. The absence of other Republicans only underscored how divisive the issue of Russian electoral meddling remains; when Dianne Feinstein urged fellow legislators to “put aside politics and act decisively,” she was speaking almost entirely to members of her own party.

After testifying before the committee, Nina Jankowicz, a Kennan Institute scholar who has spent the last several years advising the Ukrainian government on how to counter Russian disinformation campaigns, told Yahoo News that the United States needs a “generational solution” that will make Americans less susceptible to fake news and other forms of manipulation. She pointed to Finland and Sweden as two nations that have done especially impressive work in educating their citizens in this regard. It is work, however, they have been doing since the end of World War II.

For now, Jankowicz hopes that every election board in the nation should make sure that electronic voting records are bolstered by a paper trail of tamper-proof records. She also believes, like Hickey of the Justice Department, that a “credible threat of retaliation” should be presented to the Russians, lest they think of launching another misinformation campaign in November. Lastly, she would “enlist credible third parties,” such as technology companies, to explain to Americans how voting works, since a broad confusion about the electoral process is what makes that process potentially ripe for exploitation.

“It’s mush,” she said. “It’s hard for Americans to wade through that.”

The congressional hearing came days after one of the nation’s top intelligence officials offered a remarkably frank assessment of the Russian situation. Speaking on June 8 in Normandy, France, as part of an event titled “The Tocqueville Conversations,” Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats expressed concern about “Russian targeting of American society in ways that could affect our midterm elections.”

Coats also noted that Russia has had plenty of opportunities to hone its disinformation tactics since the 2016 election by attempting to sway elections in France, Germany and Norway, as well as the separatist movement in the Catalonia region of Spain.

“These Russian actions are purposeful and premeditated and they represent an all-out assault, by Vladimir Putin, on the rule of law, Western ideals and democratic norms,” Coats said. His remarks came on the same day that Trump said that Russia should be welcomed back into what is now the G-7 group of countries, underscoring the divide between an intelligence community that sees Russia as a foe and a president who looks longingly towards the Kremlin.

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06-13-2018, 06:19 AM

LOL! What else should we expect Mueller to say? He’s fighting for legitimacy here. Only the hysterical left believes that this is a legitimate investigation. Everyone else knows it’s a farce.
  
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06-13-2018, 06:57 AM

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06-13-2018, 07:08 AM

Typical replies from Trumps Cheerleaders. See no evil for Il Duce. A differing slant on news is always pollution.
Where the concern for our election process? What hypocrisy!



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06-13-2018, 07:23 AM

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Typical replies from Trumps Cheerleaders. See no evil for Il Duce. A differing slant on news is always pollution.
Where the concern for our election process? What hypocrisy!
Bullshit Robin.... Russia meddling with US elections has nothing to do with Trump in any way. This has been going on since the beginning of the cold war, we do the same 'meddling' to them as well. This is nothing new, and its most certainly not a US partisan issue like you keep trying to make it into. Social media has just added a new dimension to it. Your would-be queen lost in 2016 of her own idiocy....I hate to break it to you, the Russians didn't do it.


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Typical replies from Trumps Cheerleaders. See no evil for Il Duce. A differing slant on news is always pollution.
Where the concern for our election process? What hypocrisy!
No, typical posting from the guy reading the nutter sites. Obama did nothing about the meddling and you stayed quiet. They are still involved and the left is too busy trying to find out the Trump was some how involved which is beyond laughable.

If Russia didn't interfere I would be worried. The US has been doing the same shit for decades. It's what they do and will continue to do. We can only stop so much, but if they want to post on Facebook about Trump "not our president", what am I suppose to do ?


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I would like to remind forum members that during the 1930s the government of the United States was infiltrated to the highest levels by Marxist-Leninist agents of the Soviet Union.

There were 329 Soviet operatives within in New Deal federal Government. This is a historical fact.

FDR when he came to DC in 33 diplomatically recognized the Soviet Union which had just participated in the largest genocide in the early 20th century in the Ukraine.

7-10 million folks were shot, gulaged and starved to death in an act of terror against the Ukrainian Christian population.

The folks that orchestrated this dance of death both died of old age and escaped all the sociopathic murder in the Stalin regime.

Most America school kids no nothing about this stuff.

FDR made one of the greatest mistakes of any statesman in the history of the world in his policy in 33.

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Typical replies from Trumps Cheerleaders. See no evil for Il Duce. A differing slant on news is always pollution.
Where the concern for our election process? What hypocrisy!
Robin, you're just as bad as the Bible thumping kooks that insist that you're going to hell for liking Rock & Roll.

The difference, at least they really mean what they say.
You...well, you think it is merely partisan politics and your hatred is blinding.

You truly are LOST and without hope.

Meanwhile, I will continue to watch you struggle as you comb Yahoo! news for something, anything negative to post. After all, it is all you've got.


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Meanwhile, I will continue to watch you struggle as you comb Yahoo! news for something, anything negative to post. After all, it is all you've got.
I wish he would comb through a middle-school English textbook to learn a bit about grammar.
Whenever I read posts from an adult with child-like grammar, I assume there's a correlation. In his case, it seems quite clear.


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If this is true it looks kind of bad when we request them back into G7.
Perhaps we should cut off all communications and put high tariffs on all their
goods. There needs to be a punishment for it.

https://nypost.com/2018/06/12/muelle...our-elections/

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Hey Robin! Is your source of news the same NYPOST as the one in the picture?

Need to change your name from Robin to Robbin;...... cuz you be "robbin'" everyone here of real news and switching it out with fake news.
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Robin, you're just as bad as the Bible thumping kooks that insist that you're going to hell for liking Rock & Roll.

The difference, at least they really mean what they say.
You...well, you think it is merely partisan politics and your hatred is blinding.

You truly are LOST and without hope.

Meanwhile, I will continue to watch you struggle as you comb Yahoo! news for something, anything negative to post. After all, it is all you've got.
I apologize for finding out that republicans are having trouble with other Republicans. Obviously this is a partisan post! Geez

Really I want no more than Rosenstein. Leave the Investigation to purity and allow
the DOJ and courts to work. The American people deserve that so what's the
problem?
Its more like we don't want to be found doing what we were doing so lets try
and screw it up.

No partisan hate here, didn't you see where I was upset with the Democrats the other
day? No of course not, you don't pay attention to that. Too busy calling me names. I
got it.

Yay Trump! Yay for Russian meddling! Yay to Kim Jong Dong and Dennis Rodman,
Yay, Yay, Yay! All this winning so we can attack the investigation where some folks messed up or the public actually finds out the truth to foreign influence in elections.


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No of course not, you don't pay attention to that. Too busy calling me names. I
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Where the concern for our election process? What hypocrisy!
Where is the concern for our election process?

We agree here Robin.

Take a look into that cemetery up the road from your house there in NC.

In the last election (2016), that cemetery voted 3412 to 0 in favor of Hillary.

Are you telling me that not one of those headstones wanted to Make America Great Again?

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Typical replies from Trumps Cheerleaders. See no evil for Il Duce. A differing slant on news is always pollution.
Where the concern for our election process? What hypocrisy!
Go ask your boy barry where his concern was. He didn't give a shit because the wicked witch was going to win anyway and sweep it all away. WTF happened barry?
  
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