Diamond 8ft Pro Table Rubber Cushions
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IIRC Diamond only uses the Artemis on 9ft tables for the speed issue you mention.
Yep. Agree 100%. Plus Artemis are WAAAY more expensive. Replace with what Diamond uses.
They are. That being said, I've seen photos of Artemis rubbing having dry rot after 10 years so results may vary I suppose.
I’m not a mechanic but just curious: Why do you need new rubber? Did it fail? If so, how old is the table? Only asking because I can’t recall hearing about any diamond cushion failures on these forums over the years. Only replacements due to customers wanting to change dimensions.
Cushions
I have a older Diamond red label I bought used the rails are hard with little to no cushion compression which makes the table play very inconsistent which is messing with my speed and the way the cue ball reacts off the rails so when I go play on a good Diamond table at a pool hall my game is off. The cushions probably lasted as long as they were suppose to it's just time to replace them.
I have a older Diamond red label I bought used the rails are hard with little to no cushion compression which makes the table play very inconsistent which is messing with my speed and the way the cue ball reacts off the rails so when I go play on a good Diamond table at a pool hall my game is off. The cushions probably lasted as long as they were suppose to it's just time to replace them.
The main reason Red labels play funny is not so much the rubber itself but the angle of the sub-rails. When they changed that(and cushions) on the Blues they play fine. You can make a Red into a Blue spec but its not cheap.
Ah, makes sense. Just be careful its really the cushions got old and deteriorated over time. They may be fine, and it could be the sub-rail angle difference between red and blue label, as garczar mentioned. It would suck to pay money and labor for new cushions, and end up exactly where you started.
When Diamond came out with the Blue label version they did go to Artemis on the 9ft but the main change was the sub-rail angle. On the Red's the top of the cushion was angled down too much making banks go short. A good mechanic can change it but as isaid above it may not be a cheap fix. I've played a lot on the Red's and yes they bank a lil short but you adjust pretty fast. Not a huge deal imo. My home room hosted 3-4 CamelPro events on Red-labels and nobody whined at all.
Cushions
I don't have a problem how my red label Diamond 8ft pro is set up it just needs new cushions the ones I have are hard as concrete and the cue ball and object balls react terrible. I just wanted to know the best cushions to go with I plan on putting simonis 860 tournament blue back on it and replacing all pockets they say the newer pockets from Diamond don't leave black marks on the balls anymore.
I don't have a problem how my red label Diamond 8ft pro is set up it just needs new cushions the ones I have are hard as concrete and the cue ball and object balls react terrible. I just wanted to know the best cushions to go with I plan on putting simonis 860 tournament blue back on it and replacing all pockets they say the newer pockets from Diamond don't leave black marks on the balls anymore.
Do you know if in addition to the sub-rail angle change does the rail height (thickness) also need to change to go from red to blue label? If so, thinner of thicker?
For what its worth I play at a few places that have both Red and Blue label Diamonds, the Reds seem to play faster than the Blues and bank shorter.
Diamond's history of cushions:
Brunswick Superspeed- Black Label
Championship Fleetwood K55- Early Red Labels, Black Label.
Diamond Black K55- Red Label
Artemis Intercontinental 66(K55) Late Red Label / Blue Label
Current: 7' 8' Come with Diamond Black K55
My $0.02: I use Championship Tour Edition K55 on the old Red &
Black Label Diamonds and they play great. The nose height is just
a little higher and helps with the "banking short" problem. Just a lil
trick I learned from one of the best.
Buying a new top is a pricey option and I would buy new before I
went that route. Good Luck with your table!
TFT
