Your right , when Engert ran his 492 and Hopkins with his 421 , Hohmann and Strickland with thier 408s I'm sure they are were all trying to keep going but that's not excatly what I'm talking about , but I know you know what I mean
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John Schmidt has beaten Mosconi
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Your right , when Engert ran his 492 and Hopkins with his 421 , Hohmann and Strickland with thier 408s I'm sure they are were all trying to keep going but that's not excatly what I'm talking about , but I know you know what I mean
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Jay Helfert is absolutely correct.
(I said years ago that this kind of crud would happen when someone toppled Mosconi off that 14.1 high run throne.....and here it's started already)
"The man did it fair. He (Schmidt) deserves the utmost courtesy, it goes with winning".......Doc Palmer from the movie "The Gambler".
If you dont know the game , you don’t know. Nothing wrong with that. We get it. You don’t understand it. Doubling down only show you know less.
Cool. i get it. So does everyone else. Quit.
So many people on this thread have no idea what all entails for an official run. But you all want to talk about something you don’t know. I can pick three or four of you out. You are the most ignorant. Fantastic. But you consider yourself pool aficionados. This is why pool loses.
ya I get it , every one who agrees with Freddie knows something those who don't, don't lol get a grip
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John has reached the mountain top,, anything he does after this will be easy. I predict he will continue to be a top ranked player for years to come.
I'm definitely not super knowledgeable about 14.1 but, no matter my high run, "one stroke" makes me look AWSOME!
There are a few on here that remind me of local room in Florence, Alabama. It's called Tennessee Street Billiards and I have yet to see more than two people at a time (out of as many as 30 to 40) in that room that can spell straight pool but, never fear, they will be glad to inform you on what you are/aren't doing right/wrong in a HEARTBEAT......never mind the fact that any five of them added together has a high run of 50ish.
Lol, your a funny guy first off Wiile played in my friend's fathers pool hall Myers pool hall here in Md and it's said by more than one person I know he walked out on a 400 + run because they wouldn't pay for him to stay my friend ran 100 + against him , another good friend of mine held the Md state 14 -1 in his place Pete Bouros event My friend Ryan McCreesh has won that event ,and he ran over 200 on Dave Daya in a cash game yrs later , who later ran over 300 when he won the Pa state championships , I've seen many times Bobby Chamberlin run a 100 for something to do last time was a few weeks back or so don't get to high on your horse ,
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I could throw some pretty big names around if I chose to but, IMO, it doesn't really mean much when:
One man "talks" about "another man's" accomplishments.
This is keyboard stuff, period.
What John did/does isn't. As long as you see the highest 14.1 run in history "that can be proven" as a less than elite performance, well, my opinion of you will stay the same.
It's not personal. If you felt it was, well, you need to step away from the keyboard and step toward "a" table. That's exactly what I'm about to do Sir.
Cross your fingers that I'm able to hit 50 to 60ish tonight. If I do, I'll post it in the 14.1 thread so you can RIP me apart.
I know you destroy ANYTHING I put up. Hell, if 626 dont wow you, how can anything my crooked stroke accomplish even matter?
Something tells me though, even if I put up a small run of....ummm, say 40ish, I bet you would make fun of it. Wouldn't you?
For those who wonder about the pressure John felt and his mindset during the critical points in the run, he just did a live interview on Facebook....
Here is the video:
https://www.facebook.com/PredatorCues/videos/451666048976768/
Here are times of some profound answers by John...
6:20....John discusses this was most pressure he ever felt in his life
14:30....what were your emotions when making ball 527?
17:44...what was the ball count when you really started to feel the nerves?
My take away is that John was playing against himself, while chasing Willie. There is another level of mental stress here where he states he didn't want to let his family, wife, and friends, and himself down, who all helped him get to that point. His words on his emotions from 470 to 500 are telling in what I believe is some of the greatest pressures a pool player has ever put himself under.
In a 14.1 tournament, if you miss shape, you can just play safe and manufacture another inning at the table...but to John...this was the Deer Hunter--1 shot, that's all you get.
Unbelievable respect and admiration for any individual to dedicate his life to an accomplishment like this.
John states you have to play straight pool for 20 years to even touch on numbers like this. The size and weight of this accomplishment is apparent in this interview.
Here is the video:
https://www.facebook.com/PredatorCues/videos/451666048976768/
Here are times of some profound answers by John...
6:20....John discusses this was most pressure he ever felt in his life
14:30....what were your emotions when making ball 527?
17:44...what was the ball count when you really started to feel the nerves?
My take away is that John was playing against himself, while chasing Willie. There is another level of mental stress here where he states he didn't want to let his family, wife, and friends, and himself down, who all helped him get to that point. His words on his emotions from 470 to 500 are telling in what I believe is some of the greatest pressures a pool player has ever put himself under.
In a 14.1 tournament, if you miss shape, you can just play safe and manufacture another inning at the table...but to John...this was the Deer Hunter--1 shot, that's all you get.
Unbelievable respect and admiration for any individual to dedicate his life to an accomplishment like this.
John states you have to play straight pool for 20 years to even touch on numbers like this. The size and weight of this accomplishment is apparent in this interview.
Not at all it's all good , I was just pointing out I've been around going on 60 ain't my first rodeo ive seen plenty about the game , no more no less good luck hope you break your personal best
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Oh, come on...pshh.
Have you not been reading the thread? If you had, you would know that running 626 balls, well, there is no pressure in it since there wasn't an opponent waiting to fire back at him.
It's easy, just ask them, they'll tell you.
I've argued that there HAS TO BE pressure because I feel like im gonna lose it when I get to......well, WAAAAAY less than 626 balls.
Evidently, there are some BEASTS lurking in our midst and we didn't even know it.
Jeff <<<<<<<<<< is waiting for one of them to show us just how easy it is. Since there's no pressure, it shouldn't be a problem.
I want hold my breath.
I think I'll just take my first hand experience and then:
try to just "imagine" what John was feeling!
Thanks for the link Sir!
Jeff
I just watched John's FB video.
My other post was before I even watched that.
All I can say is WOW!
You know what, its very weird that the top pros are chiming in and accepting the fact that John is the "current" .....High Run King but:
LOL...... a bunch of amatuers that have high runs from around 10ish to 150ish have issues with "what" he did, "how" he did it, hell, I had one person say something about......the "why" he did it. Just crazy is all I can say.
I've always liked John and I have said this before:
I respect John for other reasons than making balls go into a hole. The reasons I respect John is:
A good man.
A good pool player is easy to find. A good man, lol....in 2019??? are you serious? THATS why I respect him.
I admire and look up to him for the pool stuff. It shows just how hard he works.
Another thing:
ALL THE PROS HAD THE SAME CHANCE!
Like he said, I hope all the pros that now see the ...lol.........INCENTIVE ....imagine that? They said there was no incentive.
Yeah right. The incentive was there, it's just that most of them could not get there.
I hope John gets EVERYTHING he deserves for TAKING A CHANCE and doing what he has done.
Jeff
BTW:
Anyone that has not watched the vid, do it.
Bet! The American Straight Pool in October. I think we can agree on who qualifies to compete against John. I'd say Danny Barouty's speed and up.
And if by some chance John gets matched up with one of the game's elites in a long challenge match (say 2500 in five 500 hundred point blocks), you can take that 10K out of.mothballs.
I have a few thoughts on this new record run. First let me say that as a pool player myself it is almost inconceivable to run so many balls. But before all the worship begins remember that Willie never missed, he just stopped. Also Willie did his run on a small table which I believe is a more difficult task, as there is less room to work around the table. And although both players are extraordinary, Willie will always be The King to me.
It's well documented that Willie missed the 527th ball in his record-setting run.
Yes, Charlie Ursitti, the greatest ever authority on the accomplishments of Mosconi, has borne witness that Willie abandoned a practice run in the 580s once, but that's not the record run in practice, and no practice run, quite correctly, would qualify as a world record.
Also, I strongly disagree that it's easier, not harder on an 8 x 4 table than on a 9 x 4 1/2, and I've played 14.1 on both. I've never heard anyone suggest that it was tougher on an eight footer until your post. Doesn't mean you're wrong, but not many see it your way.
John's got the world record, and it will find its way into the Guinness Book of World records soon enough. What a brilliant run! Well played.
Kid, thank you for the very kind words.
There is a book marinating in various stages on my computer. As to the back cover... as you might imagine, over the years people have expressed a wide variety of opinions on some of my posts. I've saved some of the more amusing ones for the back cover
Lou Figueroa
Having watched many of the DCC run attempts over many years I'd say that it was always very unlikely that event would produce a run that threatened the 526 simply because the Diamonds are too tough.
So no.
Lou Figueroa
I saw him several times and he didn't continue running balls after the agreed to match and/or he had run 100 -- others who saw him over the years have reported the same.
Mosconi said he continued running balls that one night because the crowd urged him to keep going and because he was friends with the room owner. He said he wanted to make a nice run for him.
Lou Figueroa