Had a great time at goodtimez billiards Huntsville al,.

Of course we are glad you enjoyed yourself, and remember that your choices are no more right or wrong than the next man's.

jrctherake said:

There was actually more pro players than amateur players in the room most of the time.

Cheap action was plentiful at $100 to $200 a set, as well as 5k to 10k sets.

I didn't play 5k or 10k sets lol... but I played several pros cheap sets everyday after their last tournament match for the day.

Played sets with Danny Smith, Josh Robert's, Casper, Hennessy and Warren. I lost some and won some.

I was extremely happy with my game. I had a ball. Made a few bucks and some friends.

Danny, Josh, Casper and Warren alike, are good players and good guys to be around.

For the life of me, I don't understand why other amateur players local to Huntsville did not show up to gamble with them.

They will play cheap sets as long as no spot is given.

I just don't understand why people don't feel the need to "man up" and see how they stack up to some of the pros when the opportunity is there in your backyard.

I only saw two other amateurs gambling with them. I don't get it.

What kills me is..... lol..... a week later, some of the locals will fall right back into their "I can't get a game".

"I can't get a game", lol.... translated is "I can't get an easy game".

Some of the guilty party are azb. Members, you know who you are.

Anyways, a big thank you for the streaming and goodtimez billiards for making it possible.

Again, folks.... when pros are in your backyard why not give it a go?

By doing so, you may actually learn something about yourself and your game.

Rake

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That’s a real nice room.
The reason why more locals won’t play the Pros is because their scared rabbits. I’ve been there four or five times. The last time I was there the guy I played quite after one game. The time before that no one would play me. The time before that I had to give so much weight it was impossible for me to win. I’d play the scared rabbits for 5 bucks just to have some fun action but no dice in that place.

jrctherake said:

There was actually more pro players than amateur players in the room most of the time.

Cheap action was plentiful at $100 to $200 a set, as well as 5k to 10k sets.

I didn't play 5k or 10k sets lol... but I played several pros cheap sets everyday after their last tournament match for the day.

Played sets with Danny Smith, Josh Robert's, Casper, Hennessy and Warren. I lost some and won some.

I was extremely happy with my game. I had a ball. Made a few bucks and some friends.

Danny, Josh, Casper and Warren alike, are good players and good guys to be around.

For the life of me, I don't understand why other amateur players local to Huntsville did not show up to gamble with them.

They will play cheap sets as long as no spot is given.

I just don't understand why people don't feel the need to "man up" and see how they stack up to some of the pros when the opportunity is there in your backyard.

I only saw two other amateurs gambling with them. I don't get it.

What kills me is..... lol..... a week later, some of the locals will fall right back into their "I can't get a game".

"I can't get a game", lol.... translated is "I can't get an easy game".

Some of the guilty party are azb. Members, you know who you are.

Anyways, a big thank you for the streaming and goodtimez billiards for making it possible.

Again, folks.... when pros are in your backyard why not give it a go?

By doing so, you may actually learn something about yourself and your game.

Rake

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Cheap sets to a lot of people is $5 - $20 not $100+, that may be why people don't play better players even.

If someone twice as good as me that I liked would play me races to 5 for $20 I'd play them for hours. Mike Dechaine was in a place with me once, he offered to play someone for $20 a set, race to 7, I played 3, best I did was 4-7. Was happy to do it. If he was playing for $100+ a set, nope.

hang-the-9 said:

Cheap sets to a lot of people is $5 - $20 not $100+, that may be why people don't play better players even.

If someone twice as good as me that I liked would play me races to 5 for $20 I'd play them for hours. Mike Dechaine was in a place with me once, he offered to play someone for $20 a set, race to 7, I played 3, best I did was 4-7. Was happy to do it. If he was playing for $100+ a set, nope.

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Those are my feelings as well.

nine_ball6970 said:

Those are my feelings as well.

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I think it’s all relative. I don’t know anyone’s ratings, but wouldn’t your feelings be different if you played a little closer to their speed? A 500 Fargo might not want to, but the “lesson” would mean a little more for the 600. Just my thoughts.

easy-e said:

I think it’s all relative. I don’t know anyone’s ratings, but wouldn’t your feelings be different if you played a little closer to their speed? A 500 Fargo might not want to, but the “lesson” would mean a little more for the 600. Just my thoughts.

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I am a bit below 600 according to fargo and have played my share vs players in the 700-800 range. I don't need to spend $100-$200 to know that they just do everything better. I know how to run racks but sometimes I can't execute. Get out of line or whatever. They have better cue ball control and play better safeties. The mistakes become less and less as the rating goes higher.

I think the majority of players would not think $100 was a cheap set. The exception is players who have lots of money or just play for that amount regularly. I know some people who are below 500 who would happily play $200 sets all day long if they thought it was a good game. They might even play for 1k.

A cheap set is an amount that really won't hurt someone if they lose. I am always wary of the person who comes in asking to play cheap. I ask them what they are thinking. if they say $50 a game one pocket, then their version of cheap is different than mine and they are most likely a hustler. They want it to seem like a small amount even when it isn't to most people who play for money.

It would be interesting to create a poll of what constitutes a cheap set. AZB is full of avid players but I wonder if even 10% was say $100 is cheap and they typically play for more.

nine_ball6970 said:

I am a bit below 600 according to fargo and have played my share vs players in the 700-800 range. I don't need to spend $100-$200 to know that they just do everything better. I know how to run racks but sometimes I can't execute. Get out of line or whatever. They have better cue ball control and play better safeties. The mistakes become less and less as the rating goes higher.

I think the majority of players would not think $100 was a cheap set. The exception is players who have lots of money or just play for that amount regularly. I know some people who are below 500 who would happily play $200 sets all day long if they thought it was a good game. They might even play for 1k.

A cheap set is an amount that really won't hurt someone if they lose. I am always wary of the person who comes in asking to play cheap. I ask them what they are thinking. if they say $50 a game one pocket, then their version of cheap is different than mine and they are most likely a hustler. They want it to seem like a small amount even when it isn't to most people who play for money.

It would be interesting to create a poll of what constitutes a cheap set. AZB is full of avid players but I wonder if even 10% was say $100 is cheap and they typically play for more.

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I also believe the term “cheap” is relative to the lesson you’re getting. I’d call $100 sets with SVB cheap, but against someone else not so much.

Measureman will go on record to all of AZB.
I am not a scared rabbit.
I will play anyone any game for $5.00.
Meet me at Felts in Englewood,Co if you dare!

jrctherake said:

There was actually more pro players than amateur players in the room most of the time.

Cheap action was plentiful at $100 to $200 a set, as well as 5k to 10k sets.

I didn't play 5k or 10k sets lol... but I played several pros cheap sets everyday after their last tournament match for the day.

Played sets with Danny Smith, Josh Robert's, Casper, Hennessy and Warren. I lost some and won some.

I was extremely happy with my game. I had a ball. Made a few bucks and some friends.

Danny, Josh, Casper and Warren alike, are good players and good guys to be around.

For the life of me, I don't understand why other amateur players local to Huntsville did not show up to gamble with them.

They will play cheap sets as long as no spot is given.

I just don't understand why people don't feel the need to "man up" and see how they stack up to some of the pros when the opportunity is there in your backyard.

I only saw two other amateurs gambling with them. I don't get it.

What kills me is..... lol..... a week later, some of the locals will fall right back into their "I can't get a game".

"I can't get a game", lol.... translated is "I can't get an easy game".

Some of the guilty party are azb. Members, you know who you are.

Anyways, a big thank you for the streaming and goodtimez billiards for making it possible.

Again, folks.... when pros are in your backyard why not give it a go?

By doing so, you may actually learn something about yourself and your game.

Rake

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"I can't get any play unless I have the dead F'ING N U T S. I'm a locksmith... it's what I do."

Good Timez is a really nice room. The owner Sam is a good guy too. First time I was there he went out of his way to find me a game. Same for the guys I was with. Always enjoy playing there.

I don't want to comment on the venue etc. because obviously I don't know it (other side of the Atlantic). But I can comment on not playing pros. I have from time to time played against, usually not upper echelon pros, but players that are as close as you can get. It's always interesting. The problem is: I'm not made of money. I can't play for money I don't have, and getting your brains beaten in over and over really isn't going to help me as much as focused practise. For a couple of hours worth of "cheap lessons" at the hands of a hustler, I could easily get the same amount of time of someone watching my game and helping me improve. I play tournaments against these people, it's better value.

I'd much rather pay for lessons, than playing with someone who's interest is in keeping in the dark as much as possible. The better you get, the truer that is. They'lll happily throw a c player a bone, but if they think you are, or might become a threat, they clam up really fast. And seriously, why pay top dollar for dry bones, when you can get a full meal for the same price?

For instance I played with a former snooker pro, when I was still fairly green at snooker. This guy doesn't give pointers, but he'll play with people, sometimes for free. It was awesome at first, but really, picking balls out the pockets eventually gets old. He didn't want to tell me anything and he kept making every ball. At that time, I didn't have the knowledge needed to benefit from watching him, either. At one time I played him for about 3 solid hours and never had a shot at anything and I don't think he missed a single ball. It was completely demoralizing. I'm much better at observing now, then I was back then, but still you can't expect people to magically pick up tips from watching this sort of thing. If that was the case, you'd be a pro from watching tv. About the only difference was that I picked up the balls, apart from that it was much like watching tv.

Seriously, only pool has this obsession with playing players far superior to yourself Would you put a beginner or even a weekend player up against a tennis pro? What can possibly be learned from not being able to return a single serve? If you can't run out regularly and easily, you are far better served to take lessons. If you are close to equally good, occational sparring will tell you where you are. Take that info and practise.

measureman said:

Measureman will go on record to all of AZB.
I am not a scared rabbit.
I will play anyone any game for $5.00.
Meet me at Felts in Englewood,Co if you dare!

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You might be the guy who beat me at Felts for $20 a game last time I was there:thumbup: We can raise the bet next time but between us rabbits

jtompilot said:

That’s a real nice room.
The reason why more locals won’t play the Pros is because their scared rabbits. I’ve been there four or five times. The last time I was there the guy I played quite after one game. The time before that no one would play me. The time before that I had to give so much weight it was impossible for me to win. I’d play the scared rabbits for 5 bucks just to have some fun action but no dice in that place.

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Last few times I was in Huntsville, I didnt see any action either. Guess it's been about 6yrs now, time flies.
Jason