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11-30-2013, 10:49 AM

What happens if they miss their shot and hang you without calling safe?


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12-13-2013, 01:18 PM

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Brandon, I don't know of any top level pro event that would have a field full of guys like Ralf and Dennis that plays slop 10 Ball. If he didn't call the two it is possible Ralf optioned to give the table back to Dennis.
There have been a couple events I know of with top pros on the roster and in which they were not required to call ball or pocket.
  
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12-13-2013, 01:32 PM

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What happens if they miss their shot and hang you without calling safe?
If for any reason your opponent does anything without indicating their intention first it is your choice as the incoming player to either take what you are left with or give it back to your opponent.

It is recommended that you always call a pocket.
  
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12-14-2013, 01:38 AM

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What happens if they miss their shot and hang you without calling safe?
If no foul occurs, the incoming player must take the balls in position according to WPA rules. Here is the rule (9.8):

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If the shooter legally pockets a called/nominated ball on a shot (except a push out, see 9.4 Second Shot of the Rack Push Out), any additional balls pocketed remain pocketed (except the ten ball; see 9.9 Spotting Balls), and he continues at the table for the next shot. If he legally pockets the called ten ball on any shot (except a push out), he wins the rack. If the shooter fails to pocket the called ball or fouls, play passes to the other player, and if no foul was committed, the incoming player must play the cue ball from the position left by the other player.
Now some events, such as the SBE, have played with the so called WPA+ rules. The primary difference is in WPA+ rules the incoming player has the option on ANY miss. This takes the two way shot out of the game that is still there under the WPA rules. But what is odd to me about the WPA rules is that there really is no reason to ever actually call a safety, and this seems strange for a call shot game.

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There have been a couple events I know of with top pros on the roster and in which they were not required to call ball or pocket.
A couple of events with top level pros on the roster is not the same thing as a "top level pro event", which is what I referred to. Think US Open 10 Ball Championship.

I stand by my statement - no top level professional event plays slop 10 Ball.


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12-14-2013, 07:26 AM

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If no foul occurs, the incoming player must take the balls in position according to WPA rules. Here is the rule (9.8):



Now some events, such as the SBE, have played with the so called WPA+ rules. The primary difference is in WPA+ rules the incoming player has the option on ANY miss. This takes the two way shot out of the game that is still there under the WPA rules. But what is odd to me about the WPA rules is that there really is no reason to ever actually call a safety, and this seems strange for a call shot game.



A couple of events with top level pros on the roster is not the same thing as a "top level pro event", which is what I referred to. Think US Open 10 Ball Championship.

I stand by my statement - no top level professional event plays slop 10 Ball.

I can't be sure but I think one of them is Turning Stone which may not be at the level of any US Open event but still draws the creme of the crop. Some of the events may not be BCA point tournaments but that certainly isn't a reason to throw them by the wayside.
  
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12-14-2013, 10:53 AM

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I can't be sure but I think one of them is Turning Stone which may not be at the level of any US Open event but still draws the creme of the crop. Some of the events may not be BCA point tournaments but that certainly isn't a reason to throw them by the wayside.
I consider TS a big U.S. tournament, but isn't Turning Stone a 9 ball event?


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