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Question Help With Dating / Value of This Ginacue - 09-19-2019, 07:33 PM

A good friend owns this very interesting Ginacue and I was wondering if any of our azb members might be familiar with approx when this cue was made and also what the value might be. One shaft appears to be orig and the 2nd shafts

I've had a couple of Ginas but not this old and interesting.

Any help/comments appreciated.

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09-19-2019, 07:39 PM

Very interesting, but strange.

I don't recall Ernie doing a white bumper.

I don't recall Ernie doing an Acme joint pin.

I don't recall Ernie doing a Lucite ferrule, though could have been done later.

This one's strange, but very interesting.

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09-19-2019, 08:17 PM

Well... the shafts do have Ginacue taper.
Style Only - 1969 to 1971 (best guess)


  
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09-19-2019, 08:23 PM

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Well... the shafts do have Ginacue taper.
Style Only - 1969 to 1971 (best guess)
This cue may be older than that, This has to be one of his first cues in year one.


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09-19-2019, 08:39 PM

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This cue may be older than that, This has to be one of his first cues in year one.
I agree....maybe ‘62 or a bit later....
...I had one from that era....never saw another like it....aluminum Buska rings...
..and a much thicker aluminum ring just above the butt plate.

I think in his second era....late 80s....Ernie’s cues looked more recognizable...
...he’d found his thing that shouted Gina from across the room.

If that was my cue, I’d ship it to Ernie and have it restored....I think it’s valuable....
...plus, you would get the history....on paper.

Is Ernie still working?


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09-20-2019, 06:19 AM

when I picked up the cue my first thought based on some old Ginas I've seen and the 'look' of this one was 60's.

My buddy did contact Ernie who said to recontact him in 6 months or so to do a resto on the cue. I do not believe he sent Ernie any pics though.

Here's another pic of the buttsleeve engraving, trying to figure out the guy's name, Darryl and the last name, is this Milne?

what about value, any thoughts on what it might be worth?

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09-20-2019, 06:22 AM

Neat ole' Gina !!!

Thanks for sharing...…..


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09-20-2019, 09:33 AM

This GINA looks ancient. I would guess one of his earlier piece. Only Ernie would be able to accurately authenticate the vintage.
Needless to say, this is a very simple cue. Just because it's old may not mean it's valuable.
I spoke to Ernie (North Hollywood, CA) about a year ago. You might want to give him a shout out.:
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UPDATE: Spoke with Ernie at Ginacue today. This is one of his very first cues from 1963. When he responded to my email with a phone call the first thing he said was "Hi, this is Ernie; man that thing is old!".

He did not remember the gentleman whose name appears on the cue, he said he didn't remember what he had for breakfast this morning.

The material used for the beige rings and buttcap are a very rare exotic material he called "cue ball". I have heard of cuemakers using cueballs before. He also said the black plastic used was *very* hard and antique at the time it was used. And, oh yeah WW, he actually made the acme style pin himself.

We also spent a couple minutes reminiscing over our mutual friend, Kevin Brewer. Kevin may well have been Ernie's #1 fan - and, of course, his very dear friend.

The cue is heading back to Ernie for an inspection and then a decision on restoring it.

Did I mention how this unrestored nearly 60 year old Gina hits like a freight train? Seriously!

will keep everyone posted on progress.

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09-20-2019, 04:26 PM

Wow...Ernie was like 22 years old when he made that cue.
It was also the man in my avatar’s last year on earth.

KC...keep it in this same thread...gotta see the pics if he restores it.


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09-21-2019, 08:00 AM

Beautiful old cue. There's no way on Earth I would restore it. Vintage should look vintage, but that's my opinion and everybody has one. Haha!

I've seen quite a few restored Bushkas, and I'm like, why didn't you just buy a Tascarella? That's what it looks like now. All fresh and shiny...
  
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09-21-2019, 08:11 AM

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Beautiful old cue. There's no way on Earth I would restore it. Vintage should look vintage, but that's my opinion and everybody has one. Haha!

I've seen quite a few restored Bushkas, and I'm like, why didn't you just buy a Tascarella? That's what it looks like now. All fresh and shiny...
I know just what you're saying, Woof.

Sometimes leaving them alone is the right decision and Ernie even said so. But he added that he really needs the cue in his hands in order to make his recommendation.

Patina never bothered me but in a case like this cue, there has been expansion/contraction issues with the different materials causing uneven-ness and separations. Still, it may be right to leave it alone but ultimately that will be up to my friend and Ernie.

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Beautiful old cue. There's no way on Earth I would restore it. Vintage should look vintage, but that's my opinion and everybody has one. Haha!

I've seen quite a few restored Bushkas, and I'm like, why didn't you just buy a Tascarella? That's what it looks like now. All fresh and shiny...
I agree. Don't restore it. The 'ol car saying " its only original once" rings true here.
  
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I agree. Don't restore it. The 'ol car saying " its only original once" rings true here.
Sure, Yeah, I get it... But, sending it back to it's maker (w0w), you wont get this chance again


  
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