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Maple butt - 10-04-2019, 07:51 PM

Could anyone give me an idea of what a complete maple butt would weigh ? 29Ē long, No weight added of course. And how would it play? Thanks, mike
  
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10-04-2019, 10:59 PM

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Could anyone give me an idea of what a complete maple butt would weigh ? 29Ē long, No weight added of course. And how would it play? Thanks, mike
Around 13 oz.
Too light.
You will have to drop the elbow a lot to put some action on the cue ball.


  
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10-05-2019, 05:12 AM

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10-05-2019, 06:14 AM

Too light naturally, I have one in the making now. 30" BEM @ .650" purpleheart core.



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10-07-2019, 03:30 PM

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Too light naturally, I have one in the making now. 30" BEM @ .650" purpleheart core.
Best of both worlds with that combination I take it. How about some pics of that when itís finished? How would an all maple butt play if weight was added in the right spots to make it around 15ozs? Without the purpleheart core?
  
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10-07-2019, 07:45 PM

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Best of both worlds with that combination I take it. How about some pics of that when itís finished? How would an all maple butt play if weight was added in the right spots to make it around 15ozs? Without the purpleheart core?
You need to add approximately two ounces. Stainless collar and 1 0z weight bolt would get you closer. if you can shoot with an 18 oz cue it just might work with a bit of tinkering that's selecting some dense maple, not lightweight Birdeyes


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Almost forgot, how would it play? Like a Stainless collar Maple light cue that somebody put together to satisfy a customer's idea of greatness.


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10-08-2019, 02:15 AM

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Best of both worlds with that combination I take it. How about some pics of that when itís finished? How would an all maple butt play if weight was added in the right spots to make it around 15ozs? Without the purpleheart core?
Thanks. Sure I can send you some pictures when it's ready.



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10-22-2019, 08:31 PM

I hope you guys don't mind a question a bit off topic from Mikes question, kinda still in the same ballpark. Any idea what a 29" solid ebony butt (non cored) would roughly weigh in at? Thanks.
  
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10-22-2019, 10:27 PM

Based on specific gravity, published values:
Gabon ebony specific gravity at 6% is about .86
Hard maple s.g. @ 6% is about .62

so GE is about 1.42 x as dense as HM at the same MC.

Based on published "dry weights"; 44 for HM & 60 for GE, the ratio would be 1.36

Relating to cues, Joey always seems to know what he's talking about, so if a solid hard maple butt @ 29" long weighs 13 oz; then the exact same dimension butt in GB ought to weigh 17.7 to 18.4 oz.

I've never made a solid ebony butt, but that seems about right, considering other wood that is close. I've made a few 30" butts and it can be difficult to get the weight out of them with dense lumber to start.

Diameter matters - whether you like the ever-more slender modern shapes in the 1.250 range, or prefer something around 1-5/16" or even thicker.

That said, I'm primarily a hobbyist maker & not very active at that..

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10-27-2019, 08:48 PM

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Based on specific gravity, published values:
Gabon ebony specific gravity at 6% is about .86
Hard maple s.g. @ 6% is about .62

so GE is about 1.42 x as dense as HM at the same MC.

Based on published "dry weights"; 44 for HM & 60 for GE, the ratio would be 1.36

Relating to cues, Joey always seems to know what he's talking about, so if a solid hard maple butt @ 29" long weighs 13 oz; then the exact same dimension butt in GB ought to weigh 17.7 to 18.4 oz.

I've never made a solid ebony butt, but that seems about right, considering other wood that is close. I've made a few 30" butts and it can be difficult to get the weight out of them with dense lumber to start.

Diameter matters - whether you like the ever-more slender modern shapes in the 1.250 range, or prefer something around 1-5/16" or even thicker.

That said, I'm primarily a hobbyist maker & not very active at that..

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