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06-19-2019, 09:17 AM

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Saying global warming can't be fixed is a hoax.

Excess heat can be transfer from Earth to space.

Space is pretty cold and it will suck out any excess heat.
I'm really interested is this science behind transferring the earth's excess heat into space. Please explain.

Space does not "suck" heat from the earth's atmosphere. In the exosphere, the upper level of our atmosphere, atoms and molecules do escape into space, but that will not affect temperature in the earth's troposphere. The troposphere gets much of its heat from the earth's surface as the sun heats it. If you mean that space would suck our atmosphere to cool the earth, then guess what, we'd all be dead pretty quick.

There have been proposals that would sequester carbon dioxide from our atmosphere and transfer it into space, but that is a whole other debate.




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06-19-2019, 09:18 AM

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How so & at what cost for the "volume" needed?

I must have missed it. I have not noted that anyone has said that something that does not exist can't be fixed.
Is it broken?


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06-19-2019, 09:28 AM

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Saying global warming can't be fixed is a hoax.

Excess heat can be transfer from Earth to space.

Space is pretty cold and it will suck out any excess heat.
I'm assuming NASA has seen this post and contacted you to be their head scientist?


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06-19-2019, 09:35 AM

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Is it broken?
We "know" that it is not...


but THEY 'think' that we are breaking it...

as if we could without a total nuclear war & even that would probably only be a minor fender bender in the LONG Haul. Well... I guess considerably more than that.

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06-19-2019, 09:35 AM

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I'm really interested is this science behind transferring the earth's excess heat into space. Please explain.

Space does not "suck" heat from the earth's atmosphere.

The troposphere gets much of its heat from the earth's surface as the sun heats it. If you mean that space would suck our atmosphere to cool the earth, then guess what, we'd all be dead pretty quick.
Space doesn't suck the heat yet.

If astronauts and satellites can be launched into space.adjusting the equilibrium of the Earth's atmosphere with the vacuum of space is futurism.

Imagine reduce the pressure of a single area in the Earth's atmosphere, it will reduce the escape velocity.

The power to adjust atmospheric pressure has other benefits as well. Imagine having a vortex grounded in space. An upside down tornado.

Transferring Earth Bound objects to space solves many problems.
  
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06-19-2019, 09:38 AM

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Space doesn't suck the heat yet.

If astronauts and satellites can be launched into space.adjusting the equilibrium of the Earth's atmosphere with the vacuum of space is futurism.

Imagine reduce the pressure of a single area in the Earth's atmosphere, it will reduce the escape velocity.

The power to adjust atmospheric pressure has other benefits as well. Imagine having a vortex grounded in space. An upside down tornado.

Transferring Earth Bound objects to space solves many problems.
This is one of those times that you might just need to shut the yap, and listen more. That is how you learn things and also make friends. Some smart folks are trying their best to teach you something and you refuse to learn. I know nothing about anything when it comes to this stuff. But, I do know what BS looks like and guess which one you seem to be spewing.


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06-19-2019, 09:45 AM

https://www.noaa.gov/multimedia/info...d-polar-vortex

Polar vortex is a natural occurrence.

Can it be replicated in specific areas?

Today's technology no? Is it possible yes?
  
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06-19-2019, 09:53 AM

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Space doesn't suck the heat yet.

If astronauts and satellites can be launched into space.adjusting the equilibrium of the Earth's atmosphere with the vacuum of space is futurism.

Imagine reduce the pressure of a single area in the Earth's atmosphere, it will reduce the escape velocity.

The power to adjust atmospheric pressure has other benefits as well. Imagine having a vortex grounded in space. An upside down tornado.

Transferring Earth Bound objects to space solves many problems.
I think you are trying to propose a pressure differential between earth's atmosphere and some place in space outside our exosphere?

Num, I will put this bluntly....we'd be dead...really fast.

What do think would happen to you if you were suspended in space? Forget about the lack of oxygen or the temperature affect to your body. Every liquid in your body would instantly boil. Pretty horrific way to go, eh?

If the pressure on earth changed from your proposal, the minimal temperature changes we have experienced naturally would now become a doomsday ending.

EVERYTHING WOULD DIE!!!

See Mars as an example.




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06-19-2019, 10:02 AM

A rocket can be launched into space and leave Earth.

I am saying it could be done with other things.

I am not saying there is a door that when opened Earth just vanishes into space.

I am saying there is a boundary between Earth and space, a permeable boundary, which astronauts and rockets pass through.

I am suggesting alternative methods and objects to send through that boundary.





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I think you are trying to propose a pressure differential between earth's atmosphere and some place in space outside our exosphere?

Num, I will put this bluntly....we'd be dead...really fast.

What do think would happen to you if you were suspended in space? Forget about the lack of oxygen or the temperature affect to your body. Every liquid in your body would instantly boil. Pretty horrific way to go, eh?

If the pressure on earth changed from your proposal, the minimal temperature changes we have experienced naturally would now become a doomsday ending.

EVERYTHING WOULD DIE!!!

See Mars as an example.
  
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06-19-2019, 10:33 AM

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Space doesn't suck the heat yet.

If astronauts and satellites can be launched into space.adjusting the equilibrium of the Earth's atmosphere with the vacuum of space is futurism.

Imagine reduce the pressure of a single area in the Earth's atmosphere, it will reduce the escape velocity.

The power to adjust atmospheric pressure has other benefits as well. Imagine having a vortex grounded in space. An upside down tornado.

Transferring Earth Bound objects to space solves many problems.
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I think you are trying to propose a pressure differential between earth's atmosphere and some place in space outside our exosphere?

Num, I will put this bluntly....we'd be dead...really fast.

What do think would happen to you if you were suspended in space? Forget about the lack of oxygen or the temperature affect to your body. Every liquid in your body would instantly boil. Pretty horrific way to go, eh?

If the pressure on earth changed from your proposal, the minimal temperature changes we have experienced naturally would now become a doomsday ending.

EVERYTHING WOULD DIE!!!

See Mars as an example.
For the post... not for Doomsday.
  
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06-19-2019, 10:56 AM

Artificial Clouds, Climate Engineering Begins

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UPDATE 11 a.m. EST, June 19, 2019 – The skies over the Marshall Islands lit up this morning with the launch of two NASA Black Brant IX sounding rockets 5-minutes apart for the Too-WINDY or Waves and Instabilities from a Neutral Dynamo mission. The first rocket was launched at 7:28 a.m. EDT and flew to an altitude of 232 miles. The second rocket launched at 7:33 a.m. EDT and flew to 256 miles altitude. The vapor trails from the first rocket were observed by the cameras on the NASA Langley Research Center aircraft supporting the mission and good data was received on the instrumented second rocket.

A NASA rocket mission to study disturbances in the upper atmosphere, which interfere with communication and technology systems, will form night-time white artificial clouds visible by residents of the Republic of the Marshall Islands during two rocket flights to occur between June 9 – 21, 2019.

This the second flight of the Waves and Instabilities from a Neutral Dynamo, or WINDY, mission. The mission this time is referred to as Too-WINDY -- it’s catchier than WINDY 2.

Too-WINDY will study a phenomenon that occurs in the ionosphere – a layer of charged particles in the upper atmosphere. Known as equatorial spread F, or ESF, these disturbances occur after sunset at latitudes near the equator in part of the ionosphere known as the F region. The disturbances can interfere with radio communication, navigation and imaging systems and pose a hazard to technology and society that depends on it.
  
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