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Adjustment out of line? - 07-23-2019, 10:05 AM

Played a pretty good player one pocket for $5 a game.
I'm just a sociable player that bets low. Thats just how it is.

I'm getting 8-6.
He wins 5 straight.
I ask for an adjustment.
Maybe 9-6.
He says you move too good for 9-6.
I said if I move so good why did I lose 5 straight?
He declined to adjust so I quit.
He in no way needs the $25.00 I lost.


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07-23-2019, 10:21 AM

Save the high level weight negotiations for when the stakes rise above jelly beans.

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07-23-2019, 10:27 AM

If he already agreed to give you weight for $5 a game, I don't see what the big deal would be about trying to make it more fair once you figure out if the spot is right. It's obviously not about money so why not at least try to challenge yourself. The other way to look at it is that if this guy really is a good player, he's showing you moves for $5 a game and really you should just be playing him even and treating like a cheap lesson. There are some top one pocket players in my room, I'm talking guys that beat J Hall, Shuff, Schmidt and other great players playing even. I try to play them as often as I can for as cheap as I can, but for less than $40 a game there's really no incentive for them to try to make it a fair game. You're just cherry picking moves that will make you a lot of money somewhere else and they're basically breaking even after they pay the time. Luckily they're friendly dudes and they oblige me sometimes.


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07-23-2019, 10:29 AM

A ball is a big adjustment...I mightíve offered 11-8


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07-23-2019, 10:33 AM

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I said if I move so good why did I lose 5 straight
That's exactly what a hustler would say after throwing a few games at low stakes. I'm not saying you were trying to hustle him, but if he doesn't know you well he has no way of knowing that.
  
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why not? - 07-23-2019, 11:21 AM

I would have given you nine-six for that session, assuming we are even before that five game in a row loss. Why not, I am playing on your money. Next time we played I would start at eight-six again though, this is a short term spot.

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07-23-2019, 11:30 AM

Without knowing the scores of the 5 games you lost, it is impossible for anyone to know whether one ball was too large of an adjustment.


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07-23-2019, 11:35 AM

It's pretty cheap action... maybe keep it at 8-6 but you get
the breaks? If he's getting out, that is def a cheap lesson..
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07-23-2019, 01:40 PM

Everything at any time up for negotiation. You can always ask. Having said that, yes for $5 a game itís out of line. Youíre basically paying for lessons and when table time is considered itís a losing proposition for the both of you from a money standpoint.

When first learning the game (no books or videos available) I played an retired seasoned player getting 9-7 for $5 a game. That was 1970. $5 then is like $40 now. I had little to no chance of winning a game but he would show me shots and moves. Was worth whatever I donated.



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Played a pretty good player one pocket for $5 a game.
I'm just a sociable player that bets low. Thats just how it is.

I'm getting 8-6.
He wins 5 straight.
I ask for an adjustment.
Maybe 9-6.
He says you move too good for 9-6.
I said if I move so good why did I lose 5 straight?
He declined to adjust so I quit.
He in no way needs the $25.00 I lost.
  
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07-23-2019, 02:02 PM

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It's pretty cheap action... maybe keep it at 8-6 but you get
the breaks? If he's getting out, that is def a cheap lesson..
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8-6 and the break is stronger than 9-6...assuming the break is successful.


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07-23-2019, 02:40 PM

Truth is you probably dont win at 9-6 either.

You dont get out to play much so if you want to keep playing this guy change something. You can play straight pool ,you can run balls, what is tripping you up?
Beat that other guy who loses and doesnt want to adjust, then donate some to this guy! Pool economy needs to churn too


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07-24-2019, 08:53 AM

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8-6 and the break is stronger than 9-6...assuming the break is successful.
Yep, but I've played and seen guys where the break didn't matter.. and his
opponent sounds like he can move well... might get out of the break quick.
Measure did lose 5 straight.. $.02

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07-24-2019, 08:58 AM

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Without knowing the scores of the 5 games you lost, it is impossible for anyone to know whether one ball was too large of an adjustment.
Exactly. How close were the games? Just 'cause you lost 5 straight doesn't automatically mean an adjustment is in order.
  
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07-24-2019, 09:06 AM

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Exactly. How close were the games? Just 'cause you lost 5 straight doesn't automatically mean an adjustment is in order.
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07-24-2019, 09:48 AM

Offer to raise the bet and see if he's willing to adjust. One pocket is a hustler's game so it can be managed by those who play well. I once saw a guy lose 15 games in a row 8-7 or 8-6 and never realize he was being carried so it was to close to adjust
  
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