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Using guns as an escape goat - 09-03-2019, 07:12 AM

I think its drugs in America aren't being taken as a serious threat.

Shootings and gun related deaths are awful. But those aren't destroying the youth as easily as prescription drugs or illegal drugs.

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Drug overdose deaths involving prescription opioids rose from 3,442 in 1999 to 17,029 in 2017.
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In 2017, the most recent year for which complete data is available, 39,773 people died from gun-related injuries in the U.S., according to the CDC
America has twice as many deaths from drugs as it does guns.
Carefully selected and curated paid news is lobbyist style propaganda.

The pharmacy and medical industry are getting to greedy and should back off.
  
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09-03-2019, 07:17 AM

Someone will be along to tell you drug abuse is victimless.


If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.


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09-03-2019, 07:22 AM

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Does an "escape goat" have a kid as the getaway driver?


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09-03-2019, 07:24 AM

It's scapegoat.

If people can have the right to own a firearm, then they should have the right to do drugs. Provided they are willing to accept the consequences if they show up to work high, drive under the influence, etc.

The issue that the gun and drug control purists have is they lump everything into one negative bucket. All guns are bad!! All drugs are bad!! Simple common sense and a little bit of research will show that's simply not the case. There are clearly drugs that are worse than others and guns that are more dangerous than others.
  
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09-03-2019, 07:34 AM

Escape goats get french benefits


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09-03-2019, 07:43 AM

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Escape goats get french benefits
I could only imagine from who....


If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.


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09-03-2019, 07:48 AM

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Does an "escape goat" have a kid as the getaway driver?
LOL!
Always keep an eye on the getaway goat. He's usually the sliest goat of the herd.


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09-03-2019, 07:48 AM

My main issue is I think the pharmaceutical system is easier to corrupt.

Doctors are part of drug rings. The profits that can be taken in, the distribution of drugs is much easier than firearms. The industry is supported by various entities.

However the gun trade, for people to oppress it seems suspicious.
The only logic that makes sense for oppressing ownership of firearms is they think it will hurt the drug trade.
  
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09-03-2019, 07:52 AM

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My main issue is I think the pharmaceutical system is easier to corrupt.

Doctors are part of drug rings. The profits that can be taken in, the distribution of drugs is much easier than firearms. The industry is supported by various entities.

However the gun trade, for people to oppress it seems suspicious.
The only logic that makes sense for oppressing ownership of firearms is they think it will hurt the drug trade.
Can't escape that great logic.
In fact, when it comes to logic, that post is easily the GOAT...


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drugs or gun? - 09-03-2019, 08:07 AM

Drugs destroyed a friend of mine, best friend in high school and for years afterwards. Couldn't stay friends with him because he would screw over anyone for drugs. He eventually used a gun in an attempt to kill his wife and to kill himself. I came within inches of getting into that ambush but my trust in him was long gone and I wasn't buying an unlocked and slightly out of place door at four AM. So far drugs have screwed up four generations of that family and killed at least three people. I suspect the path is far from over. Some would blame the hunting rifle that he killed himself with, those around him knew better.

There is no such thing as a victimless crime. I read about such things all the time but then I look at what really happens in the real world. I am tired of burying the victims of "victimless" crime, I am tired of watching children suffer, victims of "victimless" crime. They grow up and raise children to be victims of "victimless" crime. The cycle never seems to end, it just repeats over and over.

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09-03-2019, 08:11 AM

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Someone will be along to tell you drug abuse is victimless.
Or to ask what an escape goat is.

For all intensive purposes and for Pete out loud.
  
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Drugs destroyed a friend of mine, best friend in high school and for years afterwards. Couldn't stay friends with him because he would screw over anyone for drugs. He eventually used a gun in an attempt to kill his wife and to kill himself. I came within inches of getting into that ambush but my trust in him was long gone and I wasn't buying an unlocked and slightly out of place door at four AM. So far drugs have screwed up four generations of that family and killed at least three people. I suspect the path is far from over. Some would blame the hunting rifle that he killed himself with, those around him knew better.

There is no such thing as a victimless crime. I read about such things all the time but then I look at what really happens in the real world. I am tired of burying the victims of "victimless" crime, I am tired of watching children suffer, victims of "victimless" crime. They grow up and raise children to be victims of "victimless" crime. The cycle never seems to end, it just repeats over and over.

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This. Been in similar situations with friends that got messed up on junk....Anyone claiming its victimless or 'ok for recreational use' is a blathering buffoon. I'll omit weed...but anything else, no.


If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.


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Drugs destroyed a friend of mine, best friend in high school and for years afterwards. Couldn't stay friends with him because he would screw over anyone for drugs. He eventually used a gun in an attempt to kill his wife and to kill himself. I came within inches of getting into that ambush but my trust in him was long gone and I wasn't buying an unlocked and slightly out of place door at four AM. So far drugs have screwed up four generations of that family and killed at least three people. I suspect the path is far from over. Some would blame the hunting rifle that he killed himself with, those around him knew better.

There is no such thing as a victimless crime. I read about such things all the time but then I look at what really happens in the real world. I am tired of burying the victims of "victimless" crime, I am tired of watching children suffer, victims of "victimless" crime. They grow up and raise children to be victims of "victimless" crime. The cycle never seems to end, it just repeats over and over.

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Seems like a family problem is causing the drug problem
  
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09-03-2019, 08:19 AM

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Drugs destroyed a friend of mine, best friend in high school and for years afterwards. Couldn't stay friends with him because he would screw over anyone for drugs. He eventually used a gun in an attempt to kill his wife and to kill himself. I came within inches of getting into that ambush but my trust in him was long gone and I wasn't buying an unlocked and slightly out of place door at four AM. So far drugs have screwed up four generations of that family and killed at least three people. I suspect the path is far from over. Some would blame the hunting rifle that he killed himself with, those around him knew better.

There is no such thing as a victimless crime. I read about such things all the time but then I look at what really happens in the real world. I am tired of burying the victims of "victimless" crime, I am tired of watching children suffer, victims of "victimless" crime. They grow up and raise children to be victims of "victimless" crime. The cycle never seems to end, it just repeats over and over.

Hu
Sorry to hear about that, but it's important to understand one key difference.

A drug addict's main reason for doing drugs are generally two-fold.

1. Chemical addiction to the drug itself
2. Chasing the original high

Drug addicts don't do drugs to intentionally hurt others, although it certainly can happen, but those victims are just collateral damage.

Now when a mentally unstable person gets their hands on a gun, it is almost always with the intent to harm others.
  
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