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10-16-2019, 12:03 PM

Would like to see some of the shit talkers call the old man out. Sure he'd give up some good weight.
  
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10-16-2019, 12:22 PM

What was the CJ earl score? Thanks.
  
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10-16-2019, 12:24 PM

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Would like to see some of the shit talkers call the old man out. Sure he'd give up some good weight.
Earl is still # 5 of USA FargoRated players...not bad for an old guy.


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10-16-2019, 12:30 PM

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Would like to see some of the shit talkers call the old man out. Sure he'd give up some good weight.
It's not about ability, it's about proper etiquette/tableside manners/distracting other players.

It's quite obvious to all the man can play pool.

I have never disliked Earl. I just don't think he should be given a pass for his antics during a match. I've seen a case where he was a distraction to players playing a match two tables over.

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10-16-2019, 12:43 PM

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Is this even a serious question? Only crackpot psychologists (or psychiatrists), who desire media attention, would ever try to diagnose someone from afar. It's a joke.

Just a couple things worth noting:

1. Like many, I've been around people with mental health issues my entire life.
2. After viewing the above things my entire life, I recognize offering up a proper diagnosis isn't easy, even for trained professionals.
3. Earl's mental health has been talked about on here for years.
4. Nearly everyone that has ever talked about Earl's personality has stated that he's a joy to be around when he's not competing.
5. If #4 doesn't give someone pause when offering up their mental health diagnosis, I don't know what else could.
I did not come to this conclusion "from afar". Ive met Earl, and talked to him.

I wont give a diagnosis as his symptomology is consistent with several possible issues. There is comorbidity of symptoms.

3, 4 and 5 are meaningless.


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10-16-2019, 12:46 PM

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This is just me, but if I had a family member that couldn't control their behavior in any kind of event that has a rule, written or unwritten, that requires proper etiquette, I would do my best to see that this family member doesn't participate in that event....

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I have said this for years on here. I have also said that some of the responsibility lies on the tournament promoters who know he has issues, and continue to invite him because he is a draw. A draw based on blowups and making an ass out of himself.

When I say someone is mentally ill, I am not relieving them of responsibility for their actions. I am noting the root of the problem, and I find no humor in people being entertained by his issues.


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10-16-2019, 01:02 PM

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I have said this for years on here. I have also said that some of the responsibility lies on the tournament promoters who know he has issues, and continue to invite him because he is a draw. A draw based on blowups and making an ass out of himself.

When I say someone is mentally ill, I am not relieving them of responsibility for their actions. I am noting the root of the problem, and I find no humor in people being entertained by his issues.
I wonder what percentage of people watch in hopes that he plays great (like at Turning Stone) and the percentage of those that watch to see him "blow up"
  
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10-16-2019, 01:13 PM

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I wonder what percentage of people watch in hopes that he plays great (like at Turning Stone) and the percentage of those that watch to see him "blow up"
If you take this forum as a representation of the pool watching community as a whole.... I would say it leans heavily to the side of people wanting to see him go off.

Sure there are people wanting to see his brilliance come out again, but it seems very lopsided to me based on responses in posts over the last 13-14 years of reading AZB.


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10-16-2019, 01:47 PM

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If you take this forum as a representation of the pool watching community as a whole.... I would say it leans heavily to the side of people wanting to see him go off.

Sure there are people wanting to see his brilliance come out again, but it seems very lopsided to me based on responses in posts over the last 13-14 years of reading AZB.
on the other hand i've seen him pick out a section of a perfectly polite crowd and begin his usual arguing. so there is no need for provocateurs for him to go off.

but it sure was nice to see him beat shaw and shane at the turning stone with very little erratic behaviour on display, just pure shooting.
  
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10-16-2019, 02:40 PM

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Earl may have some problems but it is exciting to watch his skill. Just look at the good and you will learn something.
Yes sir, most anyone can and will learn something from watching Earl, especially people that play more old-school patterns that spin the cue ball a little more than todays connect-the-dots players.

It takes a lot of skill to connect-the-dots but, IMHO it takes even more skill to be a spinner and still play at super high levels like Earl has for decades.

It truly is a breath of fresh air to see someone like Earl in gear, when compared to the style of the average pro today.

When people say they hate rotation games it's because players with Earl's skill-set and feel for the table is a thing of the past. His style of play is worth watching regardless of game played.

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10-16-2019, 02:46 PM

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I have said this for years on here. I have also said that some of the responsibility lies on the tournament promoters who know he has issues, and continue to invite him because he is a draw. A draw based on blowups and making an ass out of himself.

When I say someone is mentally ill, I am not relieving them of responsibility for their actions. I am noting the root of the problem, and I find no humor in people being entertained by his issues.
Another great post sir.

I'm not Earl's best bud in real life or anything but, I have a feeling some on here only know what they have seen online, t.v. or at a random tournament.

Like others, I've witnessed Earl's problems first hand in social settings....not just around competition.

People don't know what they don't know. That doesn't stop them from being cruel or azzhats or both.

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10-16-2019, 03:00 PM

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I wonder what percentage of people watch in hopes that he plays great (like at Turning Stone) and the percentage of those that watch to see him "blow up"
I want to see both. Nothing wrong with that, that's entertaining.
Folks don't watch boxing to see 15 rounds of jabs, they wanna see a knock-out.
Not many are entertained by watching 500 laps of cars going in a circle without a single crash.
I want to see Earl play 'lights-out' but I'm also on the edge of my high-chair waiting for him to be an "Earl"!
  
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10-16-2019, 03:09 PM

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on the other hand i've seen him pick out a section of a perfectly polite crowd and begin his usual arguing. so there is no need for provocateurs for him to go off.

but it sure was nice to see him beat shaw and shane at the turning stone with very little erratic behaviour on display, just pure shooting.
I've seen him do the same thing with waiters/waitresses etc...etc.

Like 99% of the population, he has issues. We "all" have something but, we "all" aren't on a world stage being targeted by a55hats at every turn just for the hell of it.

Like I said before, I applaud Earl's abilities to overcome and adapt as well as he has.

He is a beast on his best day but, he is a beast on the other days as well....don't poke the beast, regardless of which beast shows up.

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10-16-2019, 08:54 PM

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I disagree warfdiesel...I believe Earl is bipolar, and undiagnosed and unmedicated. I understand bipolar behavior because I'm married to one.
It is a medical condition...not a choice.

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10-16-2019, 09:31 PM

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Ease up fellows. Damn.

Nope, Earl is not now nor will he ever be even half the player he was in his prime. But, all this chit talk is just that...chit IMO.

Let the man do what he does.....play pool.

If he's playing bad or he is just not in a good place mentally leave it alone and don't watch if you don't want to but, stop being a55's....it's the Pearl.

Just because one gets past their prime and has several really bad days doesn't mean they should take a knee and retire.

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