The Hal Houle Post

Brookeland Bill

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All of your concerns will be addressed. Some of what you say is incorrect and there’s nothing in what you say to hang your hat on.

One thing, though, Stan has never stated that all balls can be pocketed directly with CTE. That looney tunes.

Hal’s document is so very misunderstood and the major reason why is that most everyone tries to comprehend it from a conventional aiming perspective.Stan has spent years studying that material while some brilliant minds have read it no more than a handful of times, coming away with it’s not reality. They didn’t do their homework. Stan did.

Connie Shuffett

I think the issue is not the concept but Stan’s inability to communicate. I’ve watched several videos and it takes forever to make a point. I’ve had professors that had the same problem. Rambling, wayward and monotone.
Zzzzzzzzzz.
 

goettlicher

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I call BS on your post. You don’t know CTE yourself!
Name the four.
My book is a comprehensive work on CTE!
PRO ONE is CTE. PRO ONE is one of three major CTE PRO ONE approaches for using Hal’s Center to Edge.

Angry Prostate



Stan

I know CTE according to Hal.
Then I studied CTE under Tom, Dave & Dave.
Three of my Master Instructors studied CTE under Hal.
I studied CTE from them.

I don't know Pro One. I know CTE by Hal!

your friend
randyg
 

BC21

https://www.playpoolbetter.com
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Silver Member
You learn from doing.

Put in table time.

Have a training routine.

Have a list on what needs improving.

Put in table time.

Be serious about your playing.

Be honest about your abilities.

Put in table time.

Do not put a time line on your improvement.

Listen to your body, be aware of what it is doing.

Put in table time.

Be humble.

Acknowledge good players, good shots.

Put in table time.

Never give up.

Take time off from playing.

Put in table time.

Be a gracious loser.

Have sportsmanship........call fouls on yourself.

But mostly.........


PUT IN TABLE TIME

Excellent post. I put my favorites in bold! :D
 

justcueit

AzB Silver Member
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Stan

I know CTE according to Hal.
Then I studied CTE under Tom, Dave & Dave.
Three of my Master Instructors studied CTE under Hal.
I studied CTE from them.

I don't know Pro One. I know CTE by Hal!

your friend
randyg

Sorry, but to know Hal’s CTE is to know the entire body of his Center to Edge work. I’d say you might know 10% of what was in Hal’s mind about his real CTE.
Even with all studies under the various individuals mentioned, your chance of getting into the real details of CTE is zero.

You advertise as using and teaching PRO ONE but don’t know it? I agree. You don’t know PRO ONE. PRO ONE is very much a huge dose of Hal’s CTE. And for sure, you’re way off base saying that you know Hal’s CTE.

Just speakin’ the truth,

Angry Prostate
 
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goettlicher

AzB Silver Member
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Sorry, but to know Hal’s CTE is to know the entire body of his Center to Edge work. I’d say you might know 10% of what was in Hal’s mind about his real CTE.
Even with all studies under the various individuals mentioned, your chance of getting into the real details of CTE is zero.

You advertise as using and teaching PRO ONE but don’t know it? I agree. You don’t know PRO ONE. PRO ONE is very much a huge dose of Hal’s CTE. And for sure, you’re way off base saying that you know Hal’s CTE.

Just speakin’ the truth,

Angry Prostate



Time will tell.
Thank you Stan

randyg
 

BC21

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I read all 5 pages of this thread and learned that it was 98% people trying to discredit other people. I was hoping to learn something different from the elder players. But I some how feel cheated and slightly less intelligent because I never stopped reading. How are us younger players supposed to learn from elders when they're to busy tooting their own horns?


Go to YouTube and search for "Mark Wilson Part 1". He has released a 3 part series that can help anyone improve their game. Good stuff.

Don't get too caught up in all the back and forth going on down here in the "aiming" forum. It's been going on for years, and it's likely not gonna change anytime soon.
 

bbb

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Don't get too caught up in all the back and forth going on down here in the "aiming" forum. It's been going on for years, and it's likely not gonna change anytime soon.
Sad
But true
 

JoeyInCali

Maker of Joey Bautista Cues
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I see friendships and relationships getting ruined by commercialism and credit-grabbing.
Sad.
 

Boxcar

AzB Silver Member
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I read all 5 pages of this thread and learned that it was 98% people trying to discredit other people. I was hoping to learn something different from the elder players. But I some how feel cheated and slightly less intelligent because I never stopped reading. How are us younger players supposed to learn from elders when they're to busy tooting their own horns?


What Duckie said!

Remember, you'll never become a pool player sitting in front of a keyboard.
 

lfigueroa

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Sorry, but to know Hal’s CTE is to know the entire body of his Center to Edge work. I’d say you might know 10% of what was in Hal’s mind about his real CTE.
Even with all studies under the various individuals mentioned, your chance of getting into the real details of CTE is zero.

You advertise as using and teaching PRO ONE but don’t know it? I agree. You don’t know PRO ONE. PRO ONE is very much a huge dose of Hal’s CTE. And for sure, you’re way off base saying that you know Hal’s CTE.

Just speakin’ the truth,

Angry Prostate


Well, if you’re saying Randy doesn’t know it... I feel sorry for everyone else.

Particularly all those that apparently wasted their money on DVDs.

Lou Figueroa
wow
 

duckie

GregH
Silver Member
Why I stress table time........It comes from personal experience.

Many years ago, I broke my right thumb and had to have a cast. My right thumb was unable to move. I could not touch my fingers tips to my thumb.

And I’m a righty and this was the first time in 50+ years I could not use my right hand as normal.

Could not push the car door button with my right hand to open the door, couldn’t use my right arm to insert keys into the ignition and so on.

Put what really got my attention was when I went to wipe my ass with my left arm and hand for the first time EVER.

It took some doing cause of no muscle memory of that action. As the more I had to use my left, the better I got at it. Wiping with my right hand had become second nature due to the muscle memory built up over time.

If you want your stroke, your moving into proper body position that is needed for the shot, you seeing the shot.......you got to put in the time to make it all second nature.

That’s why I will always stress table time.
 
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justcueit

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Well, if you’re saying Randy doesn’t know it... I feel sorry for everyone else.

Particularly all those that apparently wasted their money on DVDs.

Lou Figueroa
wow

No one has wasted their money on anything. DVD1 is good info, the first video to ever reveal the true framework for Hal’s Center to Edge work. DVD2 is important because in that work, the visuals of CTE are tied to the geometry of a 2:1 table.

My work has never stopped and because of those that had faith in me, I kept on working to totally resolve center cue ball. DVD1 and 2 were hugely important pieces of CTE work.

My free Truth Series is a result of those that had faith in me and still do. 15 or 18 free TS videos will be released just prior to my book. Plus I will do many, many more.

There is no better value anywhere for the knowledge that I have presented and the knowledge that’s to come. What’s in my mind was in Hal’s mind and I can assure everyone that a wealth of new info is on the way.

Angry Prostate
 
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duckie

GregH
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If the fact that CTE is nothing special, just a another way of determining where the CB needs to be, was accepted by some, there would be no further issues.

The fact words are used to describe CTE, but no one can provide any diagrams or drawing to represent the written word doesn’t help either.

If trying to imply the CTE is god gift to pool was stopped, that would go a long way to stop issues.

There are some smart, experienced players and instructor in here, but implying that are just not smart enough to understand CTE as explained by CTE users, does not help.

Just accept CTE is just not understandable by some and has nothing to do that person intelligence but that the CTE steps just dont make sense in the real world.

The only thing that matters is what keeps a person playing and that’s it.
 

Patrick Johnson

Fish of the Day
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...the visuals of CTE are tied to the geometry of a 2:1 table.
I bet you'd cut your arguments in half without Hal's old numerology ideas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerology

"Numerology is any belief in the divine or mystical relationship between a number and one or more coinciding events.
...
The term numerologist can be used for those who place faith in numerical patterns and draw pseudo-scientific inferences from them."


pj
chgo
 

justadub

Rattling corners nightly
Silver Member
It's been a while since I ventured into the Aiming Forum...wow.

All that's missing is JB

:p
 

SpiderWebComm

HelpImBeingOppressed
Silver Member
I bet you'd cut your arguments in half without Hal's old numerology ideas.

pj
chgo


I bet the arguments would be cut not just in half but almost in their entirety without you, Lou, Joey, Dan and a couple of copy cats posting in here about Hal or any of what came to be as a result of Hal's work.

You guys can't let it go and haven't for 22 friggin' years! Sick maybe?
 
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