Are there many scamers here on AZ trying to steal peoples cues?
- Thread starter justinb386
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most ppl that are shady are horribly lazy and not all that bright and all they're looking for is the weakest link which sooner or later they will find and then expose themselves for what they are! now if u get a scammer that is smart and patient they will be able to get just about any1 but they are a rarity!
Escrow is the only fool proof way to avoid theft by both parties. It is a tool that should be used.
Its not only sketchy for the seller but the buyer too. The seller expects the payment in hand before shipping cue, as I buyer I am expected to trust that I will actually see the said cue that I will have already paid for. I have bought 2 cues from these forums with great results so far, but always risky. It would be much easier if the sellers who move many cues accepted credit cards. Not only for trust but also for added protection during shipping. I would have no problem covering the sellers merchant fees, even though the merchant is technically not supposed to add on credit card fees to sale, they can offer a cash discount price.
justinb386
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You can pay the seller through paypal using a credit card, and if the item is not received or not received as advertised, then you can file a paypal complaint, and/or call your credit card company and request a charge back. There are scammers that actually use a credit card knowing that they can lie about what they receive and get a paypal chargeback through their credit card company and paypal. It is a scary thought (having to deal with a dis honest buyer), but thankfully most people out there are good and honest.
There are plenty of people on azb I've shipped cues etc to with nothing up front and never a worry. C&c and I used to ship and trade all the time a few years ago for example. Jackson and do have kept the postal service busy for a long time too.There's people you know are good regardless of I trader and then there's the new crop of unknowns that's been growing lately. Recently an azer shipped me several cues to try helping them sell while I'm out and about. No questions, just asked if I would and sent.It's happened enough times over the years from enough people I now trust that I don't really think about it now so much- just sell, paypal, repeat until your cases are empty. Sellers and buyers don't have to worry about distance and concerns.But there are thousands more on here that I wouldn't even try to just because I don't know them or the cues history. Everyone has to get a start somewhere, but I wouldn't do it without some research and soul searching first. And maybe not even then. By the way- pics of a lot of cues for sale coming soon 
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My sixth sense tells me that he is back, and has been for a while.
Hangemhigh was slick for sure, I never trusted him, but a guy that wasn't slick and should of been obvious to people was Chaz Dillon.
He had a mired career on AZ, prior to his case-making scam, and I never trusted him either.
Chaz Dillon is one of those guys who got banned for a year just for being an asshole, and people actually sent him money.
I was literally shocked when I found out that so many people sent money to that creep.
Since I retired I've paid a little more attention to AZ, and I don't see many problems.
Chaz Dillon and Hangemhigh are an exception in my opinion, and as apprehensive as people are in general, it's surprising that anyone trusted these creeps in the first place.
Then we had Lee Pepper, a so-called cuemaker, more like an assembler, making a living in the cue raffle business, who didn't see that coming.
Why would anybody send money to a guy like Lee Pepper, he was a jerk.
Using hangemhigh as a middleman to a cuemaker never made sense to me
I can go on, but at some point common sense has to come into play.
Anybody that's new on here (joined in the last year or so) and/or with less than 10-15 feedbacks, you need to do a little checking on before entering into any deals. Just my opinion. Better to be on the safe side.
Sam Engles
Looks like Hangemhigh is still hanging out on Ebay as... th1822013
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGLES-STIN...769?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19dc3b7611
Looks like Hangemhigh is still hanging out on Ebay as... th1822013
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGLES-STIN...769?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19dc3b7611
Of course in any deal there is risk and you need to use caution..... but it always strikes me as odd that sending payment before an item ships is considered normal while sending an item before getting payment is talked about like its an absurd thing to do.
News flash...... they are the exact same thing.
In fact, in a future life if I become a scammer I will definitely be stealing money, not used pool cues.
News flash...... they are the exact same thing.
In fact, in a future life if I become a scammer I will definitely be stealing money, not used pool cues.
I would add that I wait till the check clears my bank before I ship anything out. One other point is I do trust businesses that I already have an established relationship with. I would name those folks but might forget one or two and that wouldn't be right. There are many honest businessman and dealers here but the thieves get most of the attention, it's human nature..