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02-14-2020, 12:28 PM

Knowing how he is, I'd suggest not playing him again. Not ever.
  
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02-14-2020, 12:47 PM

In my younger days there would have been a confrontation. I never liked bully's. My older and much wiser self would not bother to play anyone who behaves this way. I don't need the aggravation. Even if I KNOW that I can win money from them I still won't play them. A couple of hundred one way or the other is not going to affect my life. I prefer playing with people who are a lot more sportsmanlike and can take it whether they win or lose.

I've gambled with guys for $100 a game and went out to dinner together afterwards and they insisted on paying for dinner, even after I won several hundred from them. That's a real sport. I don't have time in my life for clowns like that A-Hole. And if someone like that approached me to play I just tell them I'm not interested. Problem solved.


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02-14-2020, 01:10 PM

In the end, Chicken ended up with $300

Figure that one out.


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02-14-2020, 02:03 PM

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In my younger days there would have been a confrontation. I never liked bully's. My older and much wiser self would not bother to play anyone who behaves this way. I don't need the aggravation. Even if I KNOW that I can win money from them I still won't play them. A couple of hundred one way or the other is not going to affect my life. I prefer playing with people who are a lot more sportsmanlike and can take it whether they win or lose.

I've gambled with guys for $100 a game and went out to dinner together afterwards and they insisted on paying for dinner, even after I won several hundred from them. That's a real sport. I don't have time in my life for clowns like that A-Hole. And if someone like that approached me to play I just tell them I'm not interested. Problem solved.
I would agree with this approach 100%- why bother to play with people like this? I have seen people act like this over losing pool games even when NOT gambling. Funny how games with a stationary ball (pool, golf) reveal true personas!
  
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02-14-2020, 02:09 PM

Someone did that to me years ago. I think it was a ten though. I walked away and left the ten in pieces. In my view, I was stiffed until he paid me a whole 10. Eventually he did.

In this case though, he's big and crazy...and it was a hundred, so I would tape it together and keep my mouth shut.
  
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02-14-2020, 02:36 PM

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02-14-2020, 03:32 PM

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In my younger days there would have been a confrontation. I never liked bully's. My older and much wiser self would not bother to play anyone who behaves this way. I don't need the aggravation. Even if I KNOW that I can win money from them I still won't play them. A couple of hundred one way or the other is not going to affect my life. I prefer playing with people who are a lot more sportsmanlike and can take it whether they win or lose.

I've gambled with guys for $100 a game and went out to dinner together afterwards and they insisted on paying for dinner, even after I won several hundred from them. That's a real sport. I don't have time in my life for clowns like that A-Hole. And if someone like that approached me to play I just tell them I'm not interested. Problem solved.
That is the best way to handle it, provided you know he's an A-hole to begin with.

Sounds like Chicken didn't know he was a wad before the first set, then his ice breaker joke backfired and got him into another set.

Sadly, this kind of behavior is becoming all too common.
  
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There was a time, it has passed - 02-14-2020, 04:11 PM

Once I got in a fight with three guys for stealing my quarter off a table. I choose my battles a little more carefully these days.

Today I would laugh and get a ziploc or envelope to put the money in. Any bank has to honor it. If you carefully selected pieces you might get two hundred for it, I think anything over fifty percent of a bill is worth as much as the whole bill. If you can convince someone at two different banks that they are getting over half the bill you should be in like Flynn.

In my thirties I owned a business. A nearby business bought a thirty-five dollar item and then stopped payment on the check. I nailed the check up over my counter facing my waiting area where I knew people would see it and ask about it. It was fun but I eventually had to take it down. The asswipe could sue me and win for defamation of character or some such thing. Seems ridiculous but it is a slamdunk case.

Back to pool, if the guy is just violent towards himself I might have some mercy after awhile. If he threatened violence towards me I would be playing or breaking with a house cue. Either way, it would be handy. Crazy people are a threat to themselves and everyone around them. Smarter not to deal with them but crazy people that go off a hundred a set are pretty rare. I would be tempted!

Get'em Chicken! If the law prevents you posting on the light or with a third party I would tell him to give you a hundred dollar bill up front, then settle after each set and give the hundred back after the session.

One of the funniest things I have ever seen was a moron at the next table. He lost, paid, and tried to knock a hole in the wall with his head. Old building, it was a lathe and plaster wall. He dropped like a ton of bricks. He was annoying to step over trying to play so the owner drug him out the way. Gotta watch those studs too, saw a guy break a stud in a wall, and his hand! It was super punishment having to show off that cast for six weeks or so!

Most of the people shattering cue sticks and such are just acting out, "look at me, I am to good to lose like that!" I would proceed with caution dealing with people that self harm. Only a small step to harming others and they may use a gun. One of my employees and his twin brother fought like cats and dogs. One cut the other's throat in a bar one night. The guy lived through it. A few years later they were helping their dad roof his house. They got into an argument, one got down and got his gun. Shot his twin brother off the roof and killed him grave yard dead! Met the shooter's son years later. His dad was out and seemed to be doing fine in life. I never let on that I knew he had killed his brother.

Older, wiser, but I do miss the days when differences could be settled with an ass whipping and the other side be very unlikely to call the law. Don't miss Tom Ferry's story a little down the thread from the link.

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02-14-2020, 04:49 PM

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Once I got in a fight with three guys for stealing my quarter off a table. I choose my battles a little more carefully these days.

Today I would laugh and get a ziploc or envelope to put the money in. Any bank has to honor it. If you carefully selected pieces you might get two hundred for it, I think anything over fifty percent of a bill is worth as much as the whole bill. If you can convince someone at two different banks that they are getting over half the bill you should be in like Flynn.

In my thirties I owned a business. A nearby business bought a thirty-five dollar item and then stopped payment on the check. I nailed the check up over my counter facing my waiting area where I knew people would see it and ask about it. It was fun but I eventually had to take it down. The asswipe could sue me and win for defamation of character or some such thing. Seems ridiculous but it is a slamdunk case.

Back to pool, if the guy is just violent towards himself I might have some mercy after awhile. If he threatened violence towards me I would be playing or breaking with a house cue. Either way, it would be handy. Crazy people are a threat to themselves and everyone around them. Smarter not to deal with them but crazy people that go off a hundred a set are pretty rare. I would be tempted!

Get'em Chicken! If the law prevents you posting on the light or with a third party I would tell him to give you a hundred dollar bill up front, then settle after each set and give the hundred back after the session.

One of the funniest things I have ever seen was a moron at the next table. He lost, paid, and tried to knock a hole in the wall with his head. Old building, it was a lathe and plaster wall. He dropped like a ton of bricks. He was annoying to step over trying to play so the owner drug him out the way. Gotta watch those studs too, saw a guy break a stud in a wall, and his hand! It was super punishment having to show off that cast for six weeks or so!

Most of the people shattering cue sticks and such are just acting out, "look at me, I am to good to lose like that!" I would proceed with caution dealing with people that self harm. Only a small step to harming others and they may use a gun. One of my employees and his twin brother fought like cats and dogs. One cut the other's throat in a bar one night. The guy lived through it. A few years later they were helping their dad roof his house. They got into an argument, one got down and got his gun. Shot his twin brother off the roof and killed him grave yard dead! Met the shooter's son years later. His dad was out and seemed to be doing fine in life. I never let on that I knew he had killed his brother.

Older, wiser, but I do miss the days when differences could be settled with an ass whipping and the other side be very unlikely to call the law. Don't miss Tom Ferry's story a little down the thread from the link.

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Tom flew under the radar but he could play. He won the Missouri state 9 ball the very first time they had in in 1982 and then a second time in 2005 about 6 months before the cancer took him. I think he beat C J Wiley in the finals one of those times. Phil Spudich prevented winners from playing in it again to prevent the same guys from dominating the tournament every year. When he opened up to past winners in 2005 Tom captured it again - with a terminal illness. Played in it twice and won it twice.

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I don't know why some posters are just special, and I mean that in a very good way. Tom was cunning in a pool room though. About 99% certain I met him. Somebody looked a lot like him and followed his MO he talked about on here. First night he had a clipboard, maybe the second night too, third night he didn't bother. After watching me twelve or fourteen hours whoever it was decided he didn't want to give it a try and we talked awhile. My hearing was already bad and I thought the man gave his name as Tom Ferriday. He also claimed he liked to hang out in pool halls coast to coast but never played himself. Yeah, right.

I wasn't in any rush to ask if it had been him and it seemed we had all the time in the world to get acquainted better. Then he announced he had a very few weeks to live and nothing else mattered. I never asked.

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02-14-2020, 06:06 PM

I don't see the big deal. Some rooms have nutty guys like this, some don't. Just something for the counter to talk about, while we all spend our lives doing arbitrary things such as poking at a ball with a stick

Certainly not anything to get angry over as the opposing player.

I'd probably frame the 100 too. I played one guy he broke his cue while playing me. I made it into a necklace and wore it proudly the next time he came in.

The other side of the coin I broke a few cues in my day. One guy 20 years later, he still ribs at me for breaking my cue while playing him. It goes with the pool hall territory. You give it, and you take it. No biggie.
  
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Reassemble the pieces of the Franklin like a jigsaw puzzle but about 1/8 inch apart and mount it in a nice frame.
Exactly what I was thinking. I don't keep many pool trophies, but I'd proudly display this one.
  
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02-14-2020, 06:59 PM

We had a similar incident in our weekly nine ball tournament last week. One of the best players inadvertently scratched going from the 8 to the 9 in the hill-hill game which would have put him into the finals. When I paid him his $45 for third place, he promptly shredded all three bills into tiny pieces.

What was even stranger is that as soon as he walked out the door another player who had been watching started carefully piecing the bills together like a puzzle. He sent me a photo of the finished product, and somehow he says he managed to get them back good enough for the bank to take them. He occasionally gambles with the player who shredded up the bills, and I told him he should have kept those bills in his wallet and if he ended up playing that guy again who shredded the bills, if he lost he could pay him back with his own shredded bills!
  
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