Cue ID

Type79

AzB Silver Member

Silver Member

• Dec 27, 2018

• #1

This is a butt I acquired recently which has me stumped. It has many characteristics of a Palmer and bears a close resemblance to a Third Catalog Model 4 but it has four brass rings in the back-end for a total of seven rings rather than five in a Model 4. The pin is 5/16-18 but pointed somewhat like that of an Adam.

As much as it looks like a Palmer, I doubt that it is, if for no other reason, the pin. Since the cue is in it's original tatty condition, I doubt that the pin would have been changed.

I would appreciate anyone's thoughts.

 

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dvs

AzB Silver Member

Silver Member

• Dec 27, 2018

• #2

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I have an older Viking with similiar rings at the bottom, but in blue and same points and brass pin.

I don't think its an Adam

 

Chopdoc

AzB Silver Member

Silver Member

• Dec 27, 2018

• #3

Can I see the shaft joint face/pilot/insert please?

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Type79

AzB Silver Member

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• Dec 27, 2018

• #4

dvs said:

I have an older Viking with similiar rings at the bottom, but in blue and same points and brass pin.

I don't think its an Adam

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Can you post pics?

 

Type79

AzB Silver Member

Silver Member

• Dec 27, 2018

• #5

Chopdoc said:

Can I see the shaft joint face/pilot/insert please?

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Unfortunately this came without a shaft. The presence of a shaft would have helped greatly.

 

WildWing

Super Gun Mod

Silver Member

• Dec 27, 2018

• #6

Even though it's just the butt, I don't think it's a Palmer. Even though it's an 18 thread pin, below is how a brass 18 thread pin looked by Palmer. This doesn't look like that. I would also rule out Frank Paradise, who didn't use bumpers. This one had a bumper at one time.

Leaves the usual suspects, Fedunka, Mayer, etc. I would lean toward Fedunka given the proportions of the buttsleeve, but that's not definite either. Agree, a shaft would have been helpful.

All the best,
WW

 

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Chopdoc

AzB Silver Member

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• Dec 27, 2018

• #7

WildWing said:

Leaves the usual suspects, Fedunka, Mayer, etc. I would lean toward Fedunka given the proportions of the buttsleeve, but that's not definite either. Agree, a shaft would have been helpful.

All the best,
WW

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I'll add possible National to that.

I have seen those joint rings with that pin on National.

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mikemosconi

AzB Silver Member

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• Dec 28, 2018

• #8

guessing at Karl Mayer as the cue maker

 

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dvs

AzB Silver Member

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• Dec 28, 2018

• #9

Viking cue

I was going by memory which has been off lately



Way off

Sorry for bad info

Dave

 

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dvs

AzB Silver Member

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• Dec 28, 2018

• #10

Another pix

Even rings are wrong

 

Chopdoc

AzB Silver Member

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• Dec 28, 2018

• #11

Different ring materials, different joint.

Only a superficial similarity in the butt sleeve rings.

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Pushout

AzB Silver Member

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• Dec 28, 2018

• #12

Seems to me I've seen Rich cues like that one. Long, long ago, though. I sure wouldn't bet any money on it.

 

Chopdoc

AzB Silver Member

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• Dec 28, 2018

• #13

Pushout said:

Seems to me I've seen Rich cues like that one. Long, long ago, though. I sure wouldn't bet any money on it.

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You have.

That's why almost invariably it is suggested when such a cue comes up.

But....I am 90% sure it isn't Rich.

Mayer? Yup, maybe.
National? Yup, maybe.
Fedunka? I have not ruled that out.


There are a few possibilities...