Louisiana's best pool player.

JoeyA

JoeyA

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"I'm playing the best pool of my life."

"I'm seeing the shot more clearly than ever."

No, they're not my words. In fact, it came to me as a surprise and out of the blue. It was Jamie Farrell (Louisiana's best pool player)who articulated those two quotes to me today.

I asked him how did he come to make this jump in skill since he has been a great player for 10 years or more and he said it was because of a chance meeting with Rodney Morris who is a friend of a friend. Jamie went on to tell me what Rodney had said and I was kind of stunned. I thought maybe someone put Jamie up to ribbing me or that Jamie himself had come up with a little joke, but as I listened to his story, I realized that this wasn't a joke at all.

Jamie regularly plays very tough matches primarily because he loves to play competitively and it is hard for him to get any easy games as everyone knows how well he plays and how hard he practices.

Anyway, he's telling me that Rodney Morris had told him of this aiming method where you move the eyes to a certain position and it allows you to align yourself so that it is easier to make the ball because you can see the shot the way that you should see the shot, perfectly. Now Jamie doesn't know a lot about the Internet and doesn't really do any posting to speak of. I don't think he can type very well. Lol Well, he might not be able to type well, but the guy played like burning hell before Rodney shared his secret with him. This is a recent experience by the way. Anyhow Rodney goes on to tell Jamie that this aiming technique is the biggest thing Rodney has learned since he learned how to draw his cue ball.

As Jamie is telling me the story and describing the aiming technique to me I realize that I know all about this aiming technique and remembered the guy who taught it to Rodney Morris. Rodney btw, said if he had learned this aiming technique before he played Efren in the big IPT tournament, he would have beaten Efren. Keep in mind that I am hearing ALL OF THIS FROM Jamie, who doesn't know that I know who taught this to Rodney Morris.

I was thinking about all of the naysayers and how they deserve to eat crow for the next seven years, considering they gave the originator of this aiming system s**t and almost drove this great pool player from our midst.
Sometimes a few people can have a debilitating effect on this forum because they are bold enough and brash enough and cold-hearted enough to try and censor what they don't agree with. Well the naysayers were WRONG about Gene Albrecht and Perfect Aim. The best pool player in Louisiana says Perfect Aim is AWESOME and one of the best pool players in the world (Rodney Morris) says Gene Albrecht's Perfect Aim is something that has been missing from his game and that Perfect Aim has cut his practice time in half. This is a lesson in humility for the naysayers and they should be ashamed of themselves. In fact, I think they owe Gene an apology and will look forward to hearing their "genuine" apology. :rotflmao1:

So I don't know how many of you have taken Gene up on his free telephone pool lesson but if you haven't already done so, you should.
However, if you are going to the Derby City Classic and competing, please wait until you get back from that tournament as I plan to be there myself and don't need the extra competition. :D

If you don't agree with someone about their aiming system or their method of sharing the information say so and then shut your trap.

It is nice to see a good guy like Gene get the credit he deserves from top players like Jamie and Rodney. Get well Gene and I hope in the near future to learn more about how you compete and how you can help me improve my game. Jamie Farell is a real pool enthusiast and while he and I have our differences from time to time, he is genuine and offered this testimony without him even knowing that I knew you. When I mentioned your name, he remembered that Rodney had told him that same name.

If you can help GREAT PLAYERS like Jamie and Rodney play better pool, we can only guess what you can do for bangers like me and others who struggle with their game.

Oh yeah, and by the way, Jamie won this weekend's pool tournament. I expect we'll continue to see him in the winner's circle wherever he goes.

GO GENE GO! SEE GENE GO!

GOOD LUCK GENE! Get well.
 
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Masayoshi

Fusenshou no Masa
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JoeyA said:
Sometimes a few people can have a debilitating effect on this forum because they are bold enough and brash enough and cold-hearted enough to try and censor what they don't agree with.
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If you don't agree with someone about their aiming system or their method of sharing the information say so and then shut your trap.
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So you are allowed to censor people you don't agree with, but naysayers aren't. Nice double standard...

Also Gene mostly got shit because every other post of his was an infomercial, not because there was anything wrong with his system, but hes toned it down a lot from when he first started, which is a good thing.
 
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Celtic

Celtic

AZB's own 8-ball jihadist
Silver Member
I have been meaning to fire off the phone call to Gene about Perfect Aim when I get a chance. I had not played much pool at all in the last 2+ years up until 2 weeks ago and it seemed a little pointless when I was not shooting. Now I am actually starting to play again and of all the aiming system banter on this forum the Perfect Aim system sounds intersting enough to check out.
 
miramachine

miramachine

AzB Silver Member
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After reading this thread I just bought the perfect aim system.. If it doesn't work I am holding you responsible. Haha
 
sfleinen

sfleinen

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Hi Joey!

I'm not going to quote your post and get into a point by point tête-à-tête. However, your "testimonial by proxy" post glosses over one very important point, and has nothing at all to do with Gene's product at all. But I know why you glossed over it, because, as they say, "birds of a feather flock together." It's the salesmanship/infomercial nature of Gene's delivery, not the product itself. You gloss over this, because you yourself are a salesman, so on that point, you see eye-to-eye with Gene's delivery.

I happen to think Gene's product is a good thing. It fills in the missing piece of pool instruction that other cue sports have taught for decades. Until Lance Perkins came along (and then later the BCA certification, and the SPF discipline), pool instruction has been a loosey-goosey endeavor. Even now, the student has many missing gaps of knowledge, and point-purpose targeted instruction on very specific points, like Gene's perfect aim product, help to fill-in those gaps. Pool instruction gets better every day, and soon, should compare favorably to other more mature cue sport instruction like snooker.

So having said that, why does Gene get the ire he does? The mechanism he uses, pure and simple -- which is a parasitic method of exploitation of forums that he doesn't have to pay a penny for. Gene's been warned by the moderators about this, too, but he goes on, ignoring the warnings, using the "but you don't understand -- every pool player needs this!" notion as an escapist crutch. There are rules we have to follow when in someone else's house. This forum is a good example -- it's a privately-owned forum, with rules made by the owner and moderators. We are mere guests in Mike's house, and can easily be escorted out by engaging in frowned-on behavior. From what I understand, Gene's really pushing the limits of those rules.

In summary: Gene's product? Good thing. His delivery? Bad, very bad.

I hope this helps clarify,
-Sean
 
bulletjr

bulletjr

AzB Silver Member
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Gene didn't ask me for one penny and wished me luck...... I'm confused ???????
 
JoeyA

JoeyA

Efren's Mini-Tourn BACKER
Silver Member
sfleinen said:
Hi Joey!

I'm not going to quote your post and get into a point by point tête-à-tête. However, your "testimonial by proxy" post glosses over one very important point, and has nothing at all to do with Gene's product at all. But I know why you glossed over it, because, as they say, "birds of a feather flock together." It's the salesmanship/infomercial nature of Gene's delivery, not the product itself. You gloss over this, because you yourself are a salesman, so on that point, you see eye-to-eye with Gene's delivery.

I happen to think Gene's product is a good thing. It fills in the missing piece of pool instruction that other cue sports have taught for decades. Until Lance Perkins came along (and then later the BCA certification, and the SPF discipline), pool instruction has been a loosey-goosey endeavor. Even now, the student has many missing gaps of knowledge, and point-purpose targeted instruction on very specific points, like Gene's perfect aim product, help to fill-in those gaps. Pool instruction gets better every day, and soon, should compare favorably to other more mature cue sport instruction like snooker.

So having said that, why does Gene get the ire he does? The mechanism he uses, pure and simple -- which is a parasitic method of exploitation of forums that he doesn't have to pay a penny for. Gene's been warned by the moderators about this, too, but he goes on, ignoring the warnings, using the "but you don't understand -- every pool player needs this!" notion as an escapist crutch. There are rules we have to follow when in someone else's house. This forum is a good example -- it's a privately-owned forum, with rules made by the owner and moderators. We are mere guests in Mike's house, and can easily be escorted out by engaging in frowned-on behavior. From what I understand, Gene's really pushing the limits of those rules.

In summary: Gene's product? Good thing. His delivery? Bad, very bad.

I hope this helps clarify,
-Sean
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Sean,
I'm glad you didn't cover every point that you didn't want to make.:D

Gene has been the PERFECT POSTER IN THIS FORUM.

Not once has he disrespected ANY member of this forum (UNLIKE THE NAYSAYERS).

The NAYSAYERS totally disrespected Gene and RIDICULED HIS AIMING SYSTEM. Others like yourself didn't like Gene's style of marketing.

The fact remains that if Gene hadn't come to this forum and offered his unique perspective, the forum would be the poorer for it. Allowances have to be made for somethings that are worthwhile. I think the moderators and the owners of this site recognize the value of a top player like Gene coming on this forum, just as I do.

His product can be ordered by clicking here. (But those of you who haven't ordered it should get the free telephone pool lesson as well.)
 
Roger Long

Roger Long

Sonoran Cue Creations
Silver Member
That's a great testimonial, Joey. But couldn't you have delivered your message without the name calling? Your "naysayers," naysayers," naysayers" chant is really getting old.

Roger
 
JoeyA

JoeyA

Efren's Mini-Tourn BACKER
Silver Member
Roger Long said:
That's a great testimonial, Joey. But couldn't you have delivered your message without the name calling? Your "naysayers," naysayers," naysayers" chant is really getting old.

Roger
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rOGER,
The naysayers have been the thorn in this forum's eye for YEARS.

Maybe once the naysayers see that they are called to task for their despicable behavior, they will be more civil to the Gene Albrechts, Hal Houles and Stan Shuffetts of the world.

The naysayers deserve far worse than just reminding them of what they have done to this forum.

Roger you seem far more tolerant to names and references like snake-oil salesmen, delusional, stupid, tin-foil hats, spammers, and hucksters than you are to the description of the people who hate on others. If it seems like I am being a little hard on the naysayers, that is your perception.

My naysayers chant is here to stay as a reminder to the haters that their ad hominem attacks on members of this forum is not something that is to be tolerated.

As to you feeling like the naysayers chant is getting old, you can fix that quite easily. Put me on ignore. That would suit me just fine. That way you can go back to describing CTE/Pro One as a marketing ploy and you won't see my naysayer comments when you refer to that remarkable aiming system.

You of all people should be demanding that the naysayers apologize for their putrid attacks on good and decent people for the last 10 years, but no........ you would rather complain about some calling them what they really are.

My thoughts are that the naysayers have been tolerated too long. Maybe a regular reminder is just what they need to keep themselves in line. If it looks like I am being too hard on them, go back and read their hate messages, snide remarks and condescending attitude for years. If you don't find their comments offensive, then you must be a naysayer. If you do find their comments REPULSIVE, then why have you been silent for all this time?

Anyway, it's all good Roger.

GREAT POOL PLAYERS have stepped up to the plate and have documented that the things Gene teaches is GOLDEN. The next time a Gene Albrecht comes to the forum, selling an idea and a dream, maybe the haters will just make their one condescending remark and be on their way, allowing others who are interested in learning to learn from those who go out of their way to teach. We're all big boys and girls and can make up our own mind about what we want to believe and what we want to learn. We don't need a vigilante group of haters trying to ridicule good and decent people, who are trying to help others learn how to play pool better.

I'm still waiting for the naysayers to apologize but I know that's not forthcoming. Maybe my naysayer references will be enough to keep them from chasing off the next generation of aiming system proponents.

So Roger, if you don't like my use of the word naysayers, just delete the channel.

Personally, I think calling the naysayers out every so often makes them stay in line a little better. I've noticed the naysayers have quieted down just a little bit, so maybe it's working.
 
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Masayoshi

Fusenshou no Masa
Silver Member
JoeyA said:
rOGER,
The naysayers have been the thorn in this forum's eye for YEARS.

Maybe once the naysayers see that they are called to task for their despicable behavior, they will be more civil to the Gene Albrechts, Hal Houles and Stan Shuffetts of the world.

The naysayers deserve far worse than just reminding them of what they have done to this forum.

Roger you seem far more tolerant to names and references like snake-oil salesmen, delusional, stupid, tin-foil hats, spammers, and hucksters than you are to the description of the people who hate on others. If it seems like I am being a little hard on the naysayers, that is your perception.

My naysayers chant is here to stay as a reminder to the haters that their ad hominem attacks on members of this forum is not something that is to be tolerated.

As to you feeling like the naysayers chant is getting old, you can fix that quite easily. Put me on ignore. That would suit me just fine. That way you can go back to describing CTE/Pro One as a marketing ploy and you won't see my naysayer comments when you refer to that remarkable aiming system.

You of all people should be demanding that the naysayers apologize for their putrid attacks on good and decent people for the last 10 years, but no........ you would rather complain about some calling them what they really are.

My thoughts are that the naysayers have been tolerated too long. Maybe a regular reminder is just what they need to keep themselves in line. If it looks like I am being too hard on them, go back and read their hate messages, snide remarks and condescending attitude for years. If you don't find their comments offensive, then you must be a naysayer. If you do find their comments REPULSIVE, then why have you been silent for all this time?

Anyway, it's all good Roger.

GREAT POOL PLAYERS have stepped up to the plate and have documented that the things Gene teaches is GOLDEN. The next time a Gene Albrecht comes to the forum, selling an idea and a dream, maybe the haters will just make their one condescending remark and be on their way, allowing others who are interested in learning to learn from those who go out of their way to teach. We're all big boys and girls and can make up our own mind about what we want to believe and what we want to learn. We don't need a vigilante group of haters trying to ridicule good and decent people, who are trying to help others learn how to play pool better.

I'm still waiting for the naysayers to apologize but I know that's not forthcoming. Maybe my naysayer references will be enough to keep them from chasing off the next generation of aiming system proponents.

So Roger, if you don't like my use of the word naysayers, just delete the channel.

Personally, I think calling the naysayers out every so often makes them stay in line a little better. I've noticed the naysayers have quieted down just a little bit, so maybe it's working.
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The naysayers have quited down because the aiming topics are coming up less and less and the yeasayers have acknowledged that the heavy marketing was a self-destructive activity, which is the main premise of the naysayers save one or two trolls (trolls are not exclusive to naysayers, yeasayers have plenty of trolls as well, such as...yourself). The only time naysayers pipe in is when you make topics full of adhominem attacks and exaggerations. If you stopped posting these "I'm a victim" topics every week, the naysayers wouldn't have anything to naysay against.

Also, why would Roger ignore you? If he did, you would just have free reign to post topics lke this without him being able to defend himself.
 
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BarneyCalip

BarneyCalip

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Easy Joey

Joey, a lot of us respect your opinion on the forum.
Keep it civil and no name calling, YOU ALREADY HAVE OUR RESPECT.

I have just cleaned off my 1923 Monarch Brunswick Balk Collender with 1 1/2 inch thick slate with 4 1/2 inch pockets.
I am going to get ready for the Derby, One Pocket.

I have been playing off and on for 40 years. I learned 3 Cushion billiards first, use to play at the Palace in San Francisco.
I played and lost to Bob Jewett in College 14.1. I was trained by Hal Mix in One Pocket in college.

I have seen so many aim systems and I want to buy one. I can’t afford to buy all of them.
Which system do you recommend. Gene Albrechts, Hal Houles, Stan Shuffetts and now the See system.
I am sure, I am missing some other’s.

Thanks and Take Care, Barney
 
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PoolSharkAllen

AzB Silver Member
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Masayoshi said:
The only time naysayers pipe in is when you make topics full of adhominem attacks and exaggerations. If you stopped posting these "I'm a victim" topics every week, the naysayers wouldn't have anything to naysay against.
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JoeW recently started a thread on something he learned from watching a video clip of Irving Crane. What Joe learned was how important it is to keep the bridge hand down during the shot and to not come up until the cue ball contacts the object ball. That's good advice.

Here is Joey's completely irrelevant propaganda contribution to that thread: "The naysayers of the forum have been properly admonished for their mean-spirited comments of the past and it seems like they have learned their lesson."

If proponents of various aiming systems would stop insulting sceptics and making vitriolic propaganda statements, the discussion would immediately become much more civil.
 
MahnaMahna

MahnaMahna

Beefcake. BEEFCAKE!!
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Some of the aiming systems "discussed" on here are probably great systems and could improve my game drastically.

Too bad the most outspoken proponents of these systems are such f*cking tools.

If I have to learn an aiming system to improve my game but I then turn into a complete ass who can't just start a thread about how a well know pro aims without coming off like a total douche bag, you will find me on the golf course.
 
JoeyA

JoeyA

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BarneyCalip said:
Joey, a lot of us respect your opinion on the forum.
Keep it civil and no name calling, YOU ALREADY HAVE OUR RESPECT.

I have just cleaned off my 1923 Monarch Brunswick Balk Collender with 1 1/2 inch thick slate with 4 1/2 inch pockets.
I am going to get ready for the Derby, One Pocket.

I have been playing off and on for 40 years. I learned 3 Cushion billiards first, use to play at the Palace in San Francisco.
I played and lost to Bob Jewett in College 14.1. I was trained by Hal Mix in One Pocket in college.

I have seen so many aim systems and I want to buy one. I can’t afford to buy all of them.
Which system do you recommend. Gene Albrechts, Hal Houles, Stan Shuffetts and now the See system.
I am sure, I am missing some other’s.

Thanks and Take Care, Barney
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Barney,
Thanks for the good advice and kind words. Your advice is excellent and I'll take it until I hear them ridculing some other well meaning poster.

You can call Gene Albrecht and get a FREE AIMING LESSON. That's where I would start. You should be at a pool table when you speak to him and he can walk you through his aiming system, PERFECT AIM. You can reach Gene at 715-563-8712.

I talked to Hal Mix a few months before his death and I like him. He seemed like a good man and a good teacher.
 
JoeyA

JoeyA

Efren's Mini-Tourn BACKER
Silver Member
PoolSharkAllen said:
If proponents of various aiming systems would stop insulting sceptics and making vitriolic propaganda statements, the discussion would immediately become much more civil.
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I'll be watching and remember your post. :wink:
 
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cutnedge

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Unbelievable. Being from Louisiana myself, the thread title naturally caught my attention. But like most thread titles here on AZB, the original topic is quickly dismissed and usually ends with the OP defending his marble's playing skills. I don't get it.
 
sfleinen

sfleinen

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Hi Joey:

JoeyA said:
Sean,
I'm glad you didn't cover every point that you didn't want to make.:D
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I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here. Why would I cover points I didn't want to make? ;)

JoeyA said:
Gene has been the PERFECT POSTER IN THIS FORUM.

Not once has he disrespected ANY member of this forum (UNLIKE THE NAYSAYERS).
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No he hasn't -- on both accounts. It's true that I've personally never seen Geno disrespect any member of the forum, but it's also true that Geno is NOT the perfect poster in this forum either. If he has, he wouldn't have received the numerous warnings that I know for a fact he received about breaking (and continuing to test) the established forum rules. That's not the definition of a "perfect poster." Unless, of course, that was your opportunistic method of squeezing the word "perfect" in there, as if you were trying to extend Geno's sales pitch (i.e. that "birds of a feather" thing). By your definition, you would consider me a perfect gentleman if, while in your house for dinner, I was always respectful, even though I'm going around to all your family members and trying to sell each one of them a vacuum cleaner because "every home owner needs this, and it's obvious to me your home needs it."

JoeyA said:
The NAYSAYERS totally disrespected Gene and RIDICULED HIS AIMING SYSTEM. Others like yourself didn't like Gene's style of marketing.
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I'm glad you didn't include me in the "naysayers" camp; which illustrates to me that you at least understand the difference between the naysayers (i.e. folks that say Geno's product is worthless) vs. Geno's marketing methods of ill repute. Like I said, I think Geno's product is good, and fills a missing gap in pool instruction.

JoeyA said:
The fact remains that if Gene hadn't come to this forum and offered his unique perspective, the forum would be the poorer for it. Allowances have to be made for somethings that are worthwhile. I think the moderators and the owners of this site recognize the value of a top player like Gene coming on this forum, just as I do.
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"Allowances have to be made" -- are you serious? So you're saying that rules against advertising commercial products on a public forum should not be even-handed to all members, but instead are "negotiable" depending on a product's "worth"? So, who is to say what the threshold of a "product's worth" should be, in order that the rules be bypassed for the advertising of just that product? Who's the judge of this? You, Joey? And, you don't think that removing the even-handedness of the rules would make it a free-for-all -- i.e. every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Geno will all be stating their product is "needed by all pool players and therefore should be allowed to be advertised"?

As for Geno's "unique perspective" to the forums and making them better, that's very debatable. For one thing, Geno hasn't offered any "perspective." He hasn't shared any information to the forums, but instead he siphons readers from it -- much like Dr. Dave does when Dr. Dave, rather than answering the question with the appropriate information inserted directly into the post reply, he instead profusely inserts links in his post replies to redirect readers away from AZBilliards, to his website. For another thing, I'll bet my hat that Geno's angered just as many readers as he'd benefited -- if not more. This is especially so up until recently, when Geno's spamming in threads (especially those that had nothing to do with aiming) died down a lot. I'll give Geno credit on that account -- his ruthless spamming did die down recently.

JoeyA said:
His product can be ordered by clicking here. (But those of you who haven't ordered it should get the free telephone pool lesson as well.)
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"We interrupt your scheduled thread reading to bring you this advertisement." Ah yes, "birds of a feather flock together." I hope you get an agent's fee, Joey. ;)

In summary, I don't (and have never) wished Geno harm. I know he's a great guy. But "great guyedness" does not buy him a free pass to spam forums -- no matter how good his product is. Joe Tucker's products are some of the BEST there is, and I dare say, have benefited just as many -- if not more -- pool players than Geno's product. But you don't see Joe spamming the forums, right? The popularity of his products is very high without all the spamming.

-Sean
 
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