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08-23-2019, 10:35 PM

Not knowing the history between both players.
Not knowing what else is going in their lives outside
of pool.
Sometimes these things make a big difference in these
types of situations.

The call of foul by Shane seems a bit unnecessary.
But, Johnny just forfeiting afterwards is just as bad.

All ball fouls, guy calls it, you look at your baggy shirt
and say well, ok rules are rules. I see your trying to
be a bit of a dick but I'll take it on the chin and carry on.
Hopefully karma will get yo a$$.

I'm far from perfect but this situation looks unsportsmanlike on both sides of the ball.
  
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08-23-2019, 11:33 PM

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7 ball did not appear to move. Doesn't look like a foul.

I don't have a dog in that fight but from what I see Archer was correct.
Lost some respect for Shane he said Johnny shirt touched the seven ball but waits till Johnny pockets the ball to call it you can see clearly there was no foul it was a ***** move he saw Johnny was playing good called this bull shit foul Johnny should have told him to go f him self.
  
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08-23-2019, 11:44 PM

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Lost some respect for Shane he said Johnny shirt touched the seven ball but waits till Johnny pockets the ball to call it you can see clearly there was no foul it was a ***** move he saw Johnny was playing good called this bull shit foul Johnny should have told him to go f him self.
Karma will get Shane already has huge advantage can turn off his hearing aids were he hears nothing still can't win a world title Johnny or earl would have robbed him in there prime both won world titles on tougher equipment.
  
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08-24-2019, 12:14 AM

All ball fouls without a ref is a joke. As well as racking for your opponent... Turning Stone, forever stuck in the 20th century
  
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08-24-2019, 02:32 AM

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And they used to be such good friends. Oh well, that's Pool!

I just watched the video above. That was a chicken sh-t call by Shane! He must be having a bad year.
Johnny should have never conceded it. It was Johnny's call since there was no ref and he should have said no foul because he obviously didn't agree. If they were allowed to go to the tape then Shane might have got the call if Johnny's shirt actually touched the ball but still TICKY-TACK on Shane's part.

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08-24-2019, 03:45 AM

If Johnny Thought he was right he shouldn't have conceded absolutely. However I wouldn't crucify Shane. It may look Ticky Tack and it did, but when money is involved the letter of the law goes farther than the spirit I reckon. I'd personally be pissed if I threw a bunch of money at someone in a Calcutta and lost it cause they didn't call an actual foul due to some sense of etiquette. But that might just be the degenerate gambler in me.

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08-24-2019, 04:37 AM

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Karma will get Shane already has huge advantage can turn off his hearing aids were he hears nothing still can't win a world title Johnny or earl would have.
That's nonsense.
  
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08-24-2019, 05:26 AM

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If the ball doesn't move, I'm not going to call a foul. I might mention that it touched; but i'd also say I didn't want a foul for it. Just roll up your sleeve, and keep playing. No harm, no foul.
Are you playing in a tournament for your lively hood so you can eat and pay your bills ? Nope Things change when you are. I wouldn’t call it in my local tournament or league. Either.


Btw the pic thats on here is after Johnny shot the ball and stood up and svb called the foul Johnny tried to go back down to see how he could of touched it.


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08-24-2019, 05:33 AM

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Are you playing in a tournament for your lively hood so you can eat and pay your bills ? Nope Things change when you are. I wouldn’t call it in my local tournament or league. Either.
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08-24-2019, 05:56 AM

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Lost some respect for Shane he said Johnny shirt touched the seven ball but waits till Johnny pockets the ball to call it you can see clearly there was no foul it was a ***** move he saw Johnny was playing good called this bull shit foul Johnny should have told him to go f him self.
Exactly. Why concede the match?
Just let him shoot if you think you touched it or tell him to BTFO. The refs would back him.
  
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08-24-2019, 06:04 AM

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If I remember correctly...you aren’t allowed to touch the ball you’re jacked up over...
...which is sensible IMO.....Mike could’ve been called to clarify
That's correct. Customarily, if you move the ball you are jacked up over, or the ball over which you are jumping over or masse-ing around, it's a foul whether you are playing cue ball fouls only or all ball fouls.
  
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08-24-2019, 06:19 AM

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Are you playing in a tournament for your lively hood so you can eat and pay your bills ? Nope Things change when you are. I wouldn’t call it in my local tournament or league. Either.


Btw the pic thats on here is after Johnny shot the ball and stood up and svb called the foul Johnny tried to go back down to see how he could of touched it.
I would just let it go, and it wouldn't matter if I was playing for my bills.

Just for the simple fact that it didn't affect the outcome of the shot in any way.

That's me though, and I really can't fault someone if they choose to call it on their opponent.
  
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08-24-2019, 07:30 AM

Another dick move by Shane which comes as no surprise. His true colors have started to show the last couple of years from his rack mechanic bs to pulling moves like this on Johnny.


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08-24-2019, 09:00 AM

I saw Johnny do this at a straight pool tournament. Against Joe Landy. Johnny jumped out of his seat so fast I couldn't believe it. Joe said he was playing his idol so I think Joe believed Johnny was just playing by the rules.
  
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08-24-2019, 09:08 AM

If the rule is that just "touching" a ball is a foul, I don't see how the overhead video posted in this thread could determine that. It would seem a sideview angle would be necessary to see a touch, which is where Shane was located.

Regarding the reference to the Shane / Alcano match posted. I remember that happened during the Pacman 10-ball tourney over in the Phillipines a few years back. Shane had ran out, made a straight in and obvious shot in the side and forgot to call the 10-ball. The referee overseeing the match called a foul on Shane.
  
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