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Big pin ivory joint hit - 08-14-2019, 05:50 PM

Is the hit really that good? I know other factors of the cue come into play..


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08-14-2019, 06:03 PM

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Is the hit really that good? I know other factors of the cue come into play..
I've got a 5/16 pin Ivory Joint that hits very good. Its not a big pin but its an
Ivory Joint. Plays harder though when its cold. You have to warm it up with your hand.
The slimmer the shaft the harder the hit. A lot goes into the hit.


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When u say - 08-14-2019, 06:17 PM

Big pin, are you talking about a 1/2 by 8?
  
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08-14-2019, 06:34 PM

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Big pin, are you talking about a 1/2 by 8?
3/8 x 10 pin


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08-14-2019, 06:51 PM

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Big pin, are you talking about a 1/2 by 8?
Good one!

Curious. Have you ever made your wood pin cues with an ivory collared joint?

I still don't have one of yours and every time it comes up I kick myself.

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08-15-2019, 03:20 AM

You cannot know how a cue is going to "hit" based on the joint alone. This has been definitively proven. The "hit" is also VERY subjective, different people trying the same cue would have different opinions.

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08-15-2019, 04:36 AM

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You cannot know how a cue is going to "hit" based on the joint alone. This has been definitively proven. The "hit" is also VERY subjective, different people trying the same cue would have different opinions.

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As was said, cue "hit" has many determining factors- solid ivory joint with 3/8 10 Pin- Gilbert made a lot of those- I had one once- if you pair that with a stiff taper shaft and a very hard tip it will play different than a 12.5 MM pro taper shaft with a tiger soft or ultra soft tip - so many factors on a cue "hit" you just can't look at one aspect for a final conclusion.
  
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08-15-2019, 05:03 AM

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As was said, cue "hit" has many determining factors- solid ivory joint with 3/8 10 Pin- Gilbert made a lot of those- I had one once- if you pair that with a stiff taper shaft and a very hard tip it will play different than a 12.5 MM pro taper shaft with a tiger soft or ultra soft tip - so many factors on a cue "hit" you just can't look at one aspect for a final conclusion.
Have you ever played with a South West and what did you think of that hit?


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08-15-2019, 05:43 AM

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Have you ever played with a South West and what did you think of that hit?
No I haven't, & I've yet to hit with a cue that has an ivory joint/big pin.

Yes, I understand it's subjective, I just wanted some opinions to see if it's worthwhile to pursue acquiring one.


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08-15-2019, 05:56 AM

some of my favorite cues have had 3/8 pin ivory joint, Mottey,Joss,Szamboti, Pfd

i am not sure they are not the best,i would try one if i were you

i don't think the pin size makes any difference though radial,3/8 10 or 11
the thing is flat face or piloted

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08-15-2019, 06:00 AM

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Is the hit really that good? I know other factors of the cue come into play..
Its good, no different than a wood to wood tho. Now one thing is for sure when it comes to ivory joints, the ivory over steel is not an ivory joint...nor will it ever play like an ivory joint. Contrary to what some might say, an ivory sleeve over steel is 100% going to play like a steel joint cue.

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08-15-2019, 08:46 AM

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I've got a 5/16 pin Ivory Joint that hits very good. Its not a big pin but its an
Ivory Joint. Plays harder though when its cold. You have to warm it up with your hand.
The slimmer the shaft the harder the hit. A lot goes into the hit.
What does "harder" mean here?

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08-15-2019, 09:15 AM

One of the basic problems is that poolplayers cant seem to agree on whats a good hit...
This must have been discussed a thousand times. I still maintain that tip, ferrule, shaft material and taper is what you mostly feel. Not that the butt with all it's components doesn't matter, but I think it's harder to distinguish the separate pieces.



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08-15-2019, 11:20 AM

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Have you ever played with a South West and what did you think of that hit?
I know the question wasn't directed at me, but, yes, I have. I love it myself! My current cue plays very close to a South West and is why I bought it many, many years ago. I've also played with a big pin (similar to a McDermott) with a full ivory jointed Joss custom made by Dan Janes. I liked it but I prefer something a bit harder hitting. Hit is all personal taste, anyway.


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