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06-12-2019, 12:48 PM

"Family" Friendly Billiard halls sprung up quite a bit after the Hustler Movie in the early 60s - the halls stood up for awhile - maybe until 67,68 - along with the large Brunswick and AMF bowling places( 40 lanes+) as a family friendly environment. The Color of Money in '86 mostly resulted in billiard halls that seemed to tilt much more towards the serious players, they were not really marketed as social gathering places- but there certainly were exceptions to that rule- such as Boston Billiards locations, Dave & Busters, etc. Well, Boston Billiards is mostly gone now, new D&Bs don't even have pool tables; so the INCENTIVE for people to INVEST in family friendly billiard establishments is missing - where did it go? THE INTERNET for one, and many other reasons too numerous to mention here. Can it be brought back again? Yes, probably so. what would it take? Much, much more interest by developers than what we currently are experiencing: case in point, WHERE is all the marketing around this game that SHOULD be in place since the 600+ run by JS? Is he booked for exhibitions in major cities by the two or three largest table MFGS.? Is his cue stick sponsor setting up appearances around the US to promote the game and their cues and shafts? Why was ALL of this NOT in place when the record breaking attempt was in progress, so that the achievement could be promoted IMMEDIATELY TO THE MASSES? Will this great accomplishment's marketing efforts be limited to one guy selling the DVD of his now record run? Seems to be no singular organization around billiards that can successfully organize the sport 's appeal to the masses- therefore, entrepreneurs; which this country has thousands with ready cash, are not seeing billiards as a good risk/reward scenario right now- so these rooms are not being opened. I would personally seriously consider opening a room if I felt that I even had a 70/30 chance of success ( those are actually very good odds for new business success) but I feel right now like there is no support from anywhere to assist in generating the interest levels need to bring out the masses to billiard establishments - ALL the people who manufacure, distribute, and sell billiard products need to get their COLLECTIVE acts together to get billiards back on national TV with tours that produce mass interest in the game- you just can't expect the small business guy to throw his/her money at such an unsupported item at this time.

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06-12-2019, 12:50 PM

Women in their '60s taking up pool are on a man hunt.
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06-12-2019, 02:07 PM

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Women in their '60s taking up pool are on a man hunt.
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My thought exactly!
Although they could just be practicing for league. (where they are probably on a man hunt also).


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06-12-2019, 02:20 PM

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06-12-2019, 02:25 PM

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I've written before about the unusual customers I see here at Surge Billiards in Chicago - usually fathers teaching their young sons and daughters. This morning there are 7 players, and 5 of them are women in their 60s, learning/practicing on their own.

What do you suppose attracts these atypical new players to pool?

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Maybe not in this case, but I have heard/read that problem solving (crossword puzzles, computer games, and even pool) is good for brain function as one approaches their later years. That, and just the social aspects of it. It's inexpensive, relatively quiet, and you can sit and chatter over mixed drinks if you like. There are far worse places one could go to achieve that.

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06-12-2019, 05:50 PM

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Whatever their reasons for wanting to play, here is where they're practicing today, and I never see that elsewhere.

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I was in Chicago a few weeks ago to help plan my Sons wedding next year. He and his Fiancée live a couple blocks from Surge. Of course I had to stop in and check the place out. I noticed the same thing as you stated Patrick, people who did not quite fit in to the "normal" pool hall scene playing and enjoying the rich rewards of colliding spheres. The table next to mine had a couple of elderly women playing 8 ball and two tables down was a mother teaching her two young children the game.

I took pics of this phenomena and thought I would start a thread similar to this one showing what I had seen. I later deleted the photos because it did not seem appropriate to post pics of folkd without their permission.

I did grab a couple of photos of the front sign and the matching badazz dart board!



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06-12-2019, 06:55 PM

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I was in Chicago a few weeks ago to help plan my Sons wedding next year. He and his Fiancée live a couple blocks from Surge. Of course I had to stop in and check the place out. I noticed the same thing as you stated Patrick, people who did not quite fit in to the "normal" pool hall scene playing and enjoying the rich rewards of colliding spheres. The table next to mine had a couple of elderly women playing 8 ball and two tables down was a mother teaching her two young children the game.

I took pics of this phenomena and thought I would start a thread similar to this one showing what I had seen. I later deleted the photos because it did not seem appropriate to post pics of folkd without their permission.

I did grab a couple of photos of the front sign and the matching badazz dart board!



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Yup. We Chicagoans are lucky to have beautiful new places like this and gritty old joints like Chris's to choose.

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06-12-2019, 07:12 PM

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Yup. We Chicagoans are lucky to have beautiful new places like this and gritty old joints like Chris's to choose.

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Chris's is also close and I will stop in there on my next visit. One of these days I will give you and a few others from Mud City a little notice and we can play a few


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06-12-2019, 07:58 PM

I think you're seeing that if Pool is left to those that want to find accomplishment that passion gets back into it. Mix it with gambling and something happens
to it that makes impure for human consumption. Keep it clean and a whole new world for customer base becomes possible. That;s my opinion. You choose the demographic
you want to serve with your atmosphere, the treatment of the game itself and your business practices.



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I've written before about the unusual customers I see here at Surge Billiards in Chicago - usually fathers teaching their young sons and daughters. This morning there are 7 players, and 5 of them are women in their 60s, learning/practicing on their own.

What do you suppose attracts these atypical new players to pool? I think it's the atypical atmosphere - nicely decorated place without a lot of the high-testosterone customers and antics you'd see in a more typical pool hall. Not an action room by any stretch - but I think it does a lot more than those do for pool's expanding popularity.

Business has been great here since opening a year and a half ago - proving, I think, that there's unsatisfied demand for recreational pool in a nice, friendly, non-threatening setting.

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06-12-2019, 08:20 PM

Cool story, about non-traditional groups enjoying pool. As Earl Strickland has said on video in the past, this is a great game. If they are on the hunt, well good for them! Ha!!!



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06-13-2019, 06:22 AM

The ladies gots the hots for PJ.

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06-13-2019, 06:24 AM

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Chris's is also close and I will stop in there on my next visit. One of these days I will give you and a few others from Mud City a little notice and we can play a few
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The ladies gots the hots for PJ.

Duh.

Sorry they weren't born post 1979, bud.
I don't remember what to do with those whippersnappers anyway...?

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06-13-2019, 07:52 AM

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Women in their '60s taking up pool are on a man hunt.
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I completely agree.

Parents taking their kids may be trying to interest them in activities that don't use a phone. I live in CT and gambling is not as taboo as it once was. As long as the language is not too raunchy and the place appears to be safe, the benefits may outweigh the risks from introducing them to this evil pastime.
  
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I was in Chicago a few weeks ago to help plan my Sons wedding next year. He and his Fiancée live a couple blocks from Surge. Of course I had to stop in and check the place out. I noticed the same thing as you stated Patrick, people who did not quite fit in to the "normal" pool hall scene playing and enjoying the rich rewards of colliding spheres. The table next to mine had a couple of elderly women playing 8 ball and two tables down was a mother teaching her two young children the game.

I took pics of this phenomena and thought I would start a thread similar to this one showing what I had seen. I later deleted the photos because it did not seem appropriate to post pics of folkd without their permission.

I did grab a couple of photos of the front sign and the matching badazz dart board!



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