Boyes pulling a very questionable move on Daulton

bicki said:

Hi there

I am watching the US Open second round match: Karl Boyes vs Shannon Daulton... At the score of 6:6 Shannon was clearing the table, made a bad position from the 8 to the 9 and subsequently missed the 9. Boyes getting to the table with a long rail bank. It was set up perfect though and one cud expect players of his caliber to make it. He missed it badly on the wrong side (not pro) and shot it way to hard and left Shannon a decent cut on the 9.

Shannon made the 9 and was getting to rack and placed his cue on the table when whitey was still in motion. It touched the cue on its last revolutions. Whitey wud have never gotten close to any pocket! Suddenly Boyes starts arguing with everybody, finally succeeding that a foul was called on Daulton!

I am honestly disappointed from Boyes pulling that move! He shud be ashamed enforcing this rule, when it was obvious to everybody that Whitey wud have never reached any pocket!

just my 2 cents!
bicki

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bicki said:

Hi there

I am watching the US Open second round match: Karl Boyes vs Shannon Daulton... At the score of 6:6 Shannon was clearing the table, made a bad position from the 8 to the 9 and subsequently missed the 9. Boyes getting to the table with a long rail bank. It was set up perfect though and one cud expect players of his caliber to make it. He missed it badly on the wrong side (not pro) and shot it way to hard and left Shannon a decent cut on the 9.

Shannon made the 9 and was getting to rack and placed his cue on the table when whitey was still in motion. It touched the cue on its last revolutions. Whitey wud have never gotten close to any pocket! Suddenly Boyes starts arguing with everybody, finally succeeding that a foul was called on Daulton!

I am honestly disappointed from Boyes pulling that move! He shud be ashamed enforcing this rule, when it was obvious to everybody that Whitey wud have never reached any pocket!

just my 2 cents!
bicki

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bicki said:

Hi there

I am watching the US Open second round match: Karl Boyes vs Shannon Daulton... At the score of 6:6 Shannon was clearing the table, made a bad position from the 8 to the 9 and subsequently missed the 9. Boyes getting to the table with a long rail bank. It was set up perfect though and one cud expect players of his caliber to make it. He missed it badly on the wrong side (not pro) and shot it way to hard and left Shannon a decent cut on the 9.

Shannon made the 9 and was getting to rack and placed his cue on the table when whitey was still in motion. It touched the cue on its last revolutions. Whitey wud have never gotten close to any pocket! Suddenly Boyes starts arguing with everybody, finally succeeding that a foul was called on Daulton!

I am honestly disappointed from Boyes pulling that move! He shud be ashamed enforcing this rule, when it was obvious to everybody that Whitey wud have never reached any pocket!

just my 2 cents!
bicki

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bicki said:

Hi there

I am watching the US Open second round match: Karl Boyes vs Shannon Daulton... At the score of 6:6 Shannon was clearing the table, made a bad position from the 8 to the 9 and subsequently missed the 9. Boyes getting to the table with a long rail bank. It was set up perfect though and one cud expect players of his caliber to make it. He missed it badly on the wrong side (not pro) and shot it way to hard and left Shannon a decent cut on the 9.

Shannon made the 9 and was getting to rack and placed his cue on the table when whitey was still in motion. It touched the cue on its last revolutions. Whitey wud have never gotten close to any pocket! Suddenly Boyes starts arguing with everybody, finally succeeding that a foul was called on Daulton!

I am honestly disappointed from Boyes pulling that move! He shud be ashamed enforcing this rule, when it was obvious to everybody that Whitey wud have never reached any pocket!

just my 2 cents!
bicki

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Get_A_Grip said:

You know what. I agree with you in one sense. If I were his opponent, I wouldn't have called a foul provided that the cue ball was safe from scratching.

However, there may be another factor in play here. It's called Karma. I'm not saying that I believe in the mystical force.

What I'm saying is that, in one of the last IPT events that was held in Vegas, I witnessed in person, Daulton calling the exact same foul against his opponent! No, I'm not kidding. In fact, over the years I have always remembered that, and every time Shannon was playing I have thought about that move that he did in the IPT tournament (where huge prize money was being offered -- although I don't believe Shannon even got into the money).

So there you have it. What comes around goes around....

EDIT: Wow, Shannon just brushed the 4 ball and Boyes called another foul for ball in hand.

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JB Cases said:

Terrible move. And especially since they had to use the recording to find it out. Thus now they have set a precedent for players on the TV table being able to use the recordings while the other players on outside tables don't have that.

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bicki said:

Hi there

I am watching the US Open second round match: Karl Boyes vs Shannon Daulton... At the score of 6:6 Shannon was clearing the table, made a bad position from the 8 to the 9 and subsequently missed the 9. Boyes getting to the table with a long rail bank. It was set up perfect though and one cud expect players of his caliber to make it. He missed it badly on the wrong side (not pro) and shot it way to hard and left Shannon a decent cut on the 9.

Shannon made the 9 and was getting to rack and placed his cue on the table when whitey was still in motion. It touched the cue on its last revolutions. Whitey wud have never gotten close to any pocket! Suddenly Boyes starts arguing with everybody, finally succeeding that a foul was called on Daulton!

I am honestly disappointed from Boyes pulling that move! He shud be ashamed enforcing this rule, when it was obvious to everybody that Whitey wud have never reached any pocket!

just my 2 cents!
bicki

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WoodyMPW said:

I think it's worse, no precedent is set. Last night when requesting to use review they were denied.

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HelloBaby- said:

Same way Shane called foul on Orcullo when Orcullo took a ball out of the pocket to measure a shot. I could've told Orcullo that he couldn't do that and move on.
Shane and Karl did not cheat, they enforced the rule. Not very fair play but hey, that's how they roll.
FYI, people even cheer for guys like Earl who disrespect and disturb his opponents and the audience, that's pool moral standard for you. What Shane and Karl do is nothing compare to Earl.

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slide13 said:

I think what Shane did was very different, Orcullo was looking to gain an unfair advantage by doing that, whether knowing it was against the rules or not, that was an act that could/would have an effect on the outcome of the game.

This situation is just silly to call in my opinion, it sounds like it was obvious the cue stick contact wasn't going to have any effect on the outcome.

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gordml said:

I watched the whole thing - it was the nittiest move Ive ever seen. Shannon had already racked the balls , was set to break and then Boyes pulled the move..
Another thing didnt this happen at the mosconi cup with Neils F?
The ref moved Neils cue so there wouldn't be a problem....

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slide13 said:

I think what Shane did was very different, Orcullo was looking to gain an unfair advantage by doing that, whether knowing it was against the rules or not, that was an act that could/would have an effect on the outcome of the game.
This situation is just silly to call in my opinion, it sounds like it was obvious the cue stick contact wasn't going to have any effect on the outcome.

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