Esports Leagues vs Pool Leagues

justnum

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Esports is people playing at home on their gaming platform being matched up against equally skilled opponents. Esports is a growing community. It is easy for amateurs to access it, all that is needed is an internet connection and the game.

Pool is different because both players must physically occupy the same space, pool halls help that. But in certain parts of the country going to a pool hall is less sensible then shooting at a neighbors table.

Could that experience of the "neighbors table" become a league? Instead of league night, players pay a fee, access the player database, work out the details of the match, play the match at a specified location and then upload the results.

In a place heavily populated area, it wouldn't make sense. But in smaller towns where people have home tables and there are no pool rooms, could it work?

What problems could be managed easily and which would be the challenges?
 

garczar

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For most people the biggest part of league-night is getting out and schmoozing with friends. Playing at peoples houses could likely have its own set of problems. I wouldn't do it at mine on a bet.
 
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us820

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I can barely get 5 bums out of an eight man roster to show up 17 weeks in a row.
 

King T

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Its already being done...,

justnum;. Could that experience of the "neighbors table" become a league? Instead of league night said:
Its already being done successfully in Houston Texas, its called the Houston HBOB League. Its being run by Teresa Garland, she plays at Big Tymes Billiards.

The league is completely managed online via Facebook and all results are posted, the matches are player managed and player determined.

You should speak with her the next time your in town or contact the manager of Big Tymes, Billy Sharp.
 

levid

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We are working on a league concept that is very similar to this called Digital Pool League. It basically works as you described, justnum.

Players simply join or create a division in their area using our iOS/Android or web app and challenge other members to play at an agreed upon time and place (including at a friends house). Both players pay a match fee to play, score their match through the app, and verify the results for it to be counted. The league standings are then updated in real-time. After 8 weeks of play, the top 50% of players from each division will qualify for the Divisional Playoff Tournament in their local area and the top 25% of players from this tournament will qualify for the National Championships.

We haven't officially launched yet, but you can add your email to our notify list and we will let you know when Season One is about to begin. More info here - https://digitalpoolleague.com/



To answer a few of your questions:

In a heavily populated area, it wouldn't make sense. But in smaller towns where people have home tables and there are no pool rooms, could it work?
I believe this league model can work even in heavily populated areas. It's all about convenience, freedom, comfort, and having a great experience overall. Some people might prefer to meet up at the pool hall and play, especially if they have never met before, but a few pool-playing friends who live in the same city and own tables might prefer to play at each other's houses. Since the league management is all done digitally, anything is possible.

What problems could be managed easily and which would be the challenges?
League management, player management, scheduling matches, logistics, communication, notifications, finding people to play against, organizing teams, scoring, stats, rsvping for matches, finding subs, real-time standings, payouts, running tournaments and supporting multiple game formats are a few aspects of league play that will become less problematic and much easier to operate with this new system. A few challenges will be ensuring everything can run just as smoothly if someone doesn't have a phone, tablet, computer or internet connection. Other challenges will be data security & privacy and making sure the app and league are available worldwide and running smoothly 24/7.
 
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garczar

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I could see this working in retail places but the thought of doing it in private houses gives me the willies. How much do you know about these people? Gonna do background chk's on everybody? Things can and do go sideways in this game. You really want it in your or a friends home? How about a Ghost League? You show up, play the ghost a set and post your scores? Whatever floats-ur-boat i guess. Its pool and every little bit helps.
 

justnum

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For the online pool league it contrasts with a traditional pool league because players can use different locations strategically or for enjoyment.

With the online pool, players can really invest in their neighborhoods, choose all types of places with a pool table. The pool table at a: bowling alley, dance club, lounge, restaurant, hotel and any place that has a pool table, and their home table when they are ready.

It makes sense for players that have long drives to pool halls. The convenience of choosing location is what traditional pool leagues don't have. Even pro pool tours don't have that option.

BCAPL really capitalizes on the amateur league format with similarities to a pro tour. However pro players have been clear about scheduling and traveling and all those challenges.

A local pro can sponsor the online format in their area, they should be cut in on the action.
 
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Dan_B

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Are these home brew league arrangement's playing straight up
or is there a file of the action to score handicap match ups?
 

justnum

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Are these home brew league arrangement's playing straight up
or is there a file of the action to score handicap match ups?

That should be up for negotiating. In a tournament or league, most players can gauge their opponent after the match is over.

In a self directing league, players discuss terms of the match and even instant rematch options open.

Haven't you ever wanted a rematch citing the spot or handicap was off? That has been a non-negotiable, but those rules don't have to apply to all leagues.
 
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