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What Once Was Has Since Changed........But Not For The Better. - 08-06-2020, 03:57 AM

Cocobolo C. is not someone I have any regard for whatsoever. His opinions on contemporary subjects are
just off the beaten path and he espouses aberrant minded comments about serious issues like COVID.

Even a blind squirrel stumbles across an acorn occasionally and this is his moment for clarity. A decade
ago the Az community was just as divided when there was a different President but the vitriol seemed less
than today. Over the past few years, our nation has become a battle of us vs. them and you might be on
either side because the emotions and fervor is dialed up way high in both camps. And the disagreement
that ensues invariably seems to escalate thus inviting participation by others and that leads to what it
always becomes of recent......ad hominem attacks. It has become just blatant and frigginí ridiculous. And
this is also against the Forumís decorum and actual website rules. So whatís to be done about it?

I think the NPR Section needs to go away. The Main Forum needs to stick to pool related matters. Politics
and Pool are not compatible. After President Obama was elected, politics started permeating threads & posts.
Under the current President, the tone has gotten much worse. People just find it difficult to even attempt any civil
discourse about political differences but thatís understandable when there is actual animosity being exchanged
in threads and posts. Wouldnít it be great If there was a website that was dedicated to billiards? Nothing but pool
related subjects and somewhere you could show your back without fear of rebuke or getting shanked by another
member because you disagreed.....strongly. Wait a minute....isnít that what most of us that joined Az were expecting?
Isnít that what this place was supposed to be about rather than politics but you canít discuss this virus without
also raising science, medicine, genuine facts, and how other nations are faring which automatically involves politics.

If you do not like what is happening in our nation right now, then cast your vote this November. Get off your
ass and go vote to change people holding office locally and nationally. Elect new officials to city, state & federal
positions. Change you city officials. Vote different people to your state legislatures. And elect people you want
Washington, DC. However, by no stretch should you belittle or personally insult another memberís political views.
The solution is donít enable politics on the Forum, eliminate NPR and create more Mods to patrol for compliance.

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08-06-2020, 04:02 AM

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Im not saying Covid is a hoax but you people who think its as bad as the media says it is may need to be seen by a mental specialist. The media and liberals have to flat out lie to try to make it look bad. Statistics prove that we have seen worse viruses recently and the healthy have never in history of the USA been quarantined before. And a certain segment of the population doesnt see something fishy going on here??
Exactly.. covid exists but the media has all of you hiding under your bed thinking your going to die from something that has less then .5 percent mortality rate lol Don't get me started on Pa who thinks its fine for you to goto Walmart with 500 people but if you goto your local chili's to have a meal with more then 10 people in the building your going to die. lol If this shit was real people like me in retail would be sick at an alarming rate... and were not lol


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08-06-2020, 04:54 AM

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08-06-2020, 04:56 AM

Below is the orginal OP's post. Below it is 1 of about 4 such posts in this entire thread that is political sorta or at least something that belongs in NPR.

This is post 79 which means the thread caught traction. For 4 posts out of 79 to be off topic that's pretty good.

Why do we need to change the conversation to lets get rid of NPR?

Pool is on the decrease so Cowboy's observation isn't wrong, the world is changing and we need more Pool Rooms not less. More activity means more talk about Pool.

If the site is to change with the times that would be to embrace the changes not throw away the business that it has.

NPR is fine left alone. The people that go there enjoy it for what it is and before Mike took it off the menu for lurkers there were over a hundred lurkers a lot of the time.
It does need some moderation because if rules were followed more people would enjoy it. Basic stuff like the rules we have in place now cover.

Where people get their jaw out of joint about NPR is when the click on the New Posts button and see all the activity. Remove NPR from that button and it doesn't affect anyone
else on the site if Pool is all they want to see.

Let the customers that like NPR have it.

In a time when Pool is on the decline throwing away business isn't the best idea. You could even require paid membership to go over there if you like.

The main has become a lot like NPR when you consider how much traction the attacks get here.

Pool is great, love Pool but until someone finds out that rent is cheaper in small towns and starts opening up rooms on a new plan that works, Pool is on the down turn.

When I took the screenshot there were 7 total threads on the new and 5 of those were coffee drinking posters on NPR.
The main was pretty well dead. Why blame NPR?

You want some more Pool Activity read peoples blogs and rate them. Maybe even comment. No one does that.

26 members logged in 138 guests on the site total this morning. Npr used to have a hundred lurkers in the morning just for it.

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A- Z Billiards, the Forum has become to much about, non Pool things. NPA is getting to much play.

Use to be there were Tournment announcements, show caseing of Cues & Cases, Review of Cue & Cases.

Then you had Wanted, For Sale, and Trades.

Use to be everything "A" to "Z" about Pool, and Cue Sports.

Plus a few Pro player would once in as while chime in.

Forum original idea was great, Forum has change direction for the worst.

Anyone else agree?

Or am I alone on my thinking.
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Cocobolo C. is not someone I have any regard for whatsoever. His opinions on contemporary subjects are
just off the beaten path and he espouses aberrant minded comments about serious issues like COVID.

Even a blind squirrel stumbles across an acorn occasionally and this is his moment for clarity. A decade
ago the Az community was just as divided when there was a different President but the vitriol seemed less
than today. Over the past few years, our nation has become a battle of us vs. them and you might be on
either side because the emotions and fervor is dialed up way high in both camps. And the disagreement
that ensues invariably seems to escalate thus inviting participation by others and that leads to what it
always becomes of recent......ad hominem attacks. It has become just blatant and friggin’ ridiculous. And
this is also against the Forum’s decorum and actual website rules. So what’s to be done about it?

I think the NPR Section needs to go away. The Main Forum needs to stick to pool related matters. Politics
and Pool are not compatible. After President Obama was elected, politics started permeating threads & posts.
Under the current President, the tone has gotten much worse. People just find it difficult to even attempt any civil
discourse about political differences but that’s understandable when there is actual animosity being exchanged
in threads and posts. Wouldn’t it be great If there was a website that was dedicated to billiards? Nothing but pool
related subjects and somewhere you could show your back without fear of rebuke or getting shanked by another
member because you disagreed.....strongly. Wait a minute....isn’t that what most of us that joined Az were expecting?
Isn’t that what this place was supposed to be about rather than politics but you can’t discuss this virus without
also raising science, medicine, genuine facts, and how other nations are faring which automatically involves politics.

If you do not like what is happening in our nation right now, then cast your vote this November. Get off your
ass and go vote to change people holding office locally and nationally. Elect new officials to city, state & federal
positions. Change you city officials. Vote different people to your state legislatures. And elect people you want
Washington, DC. However, by no stretch should you belittle or personally insult another member’s political views.
The solution is don’t enable politics on the Forum, eliminate NPR and create more Mods to patrol for compliance.

Nuf Ced!



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08-06-2020, 05:38 AM

something that occurs to me relates to what hu said recently
he (and many others here) have had skin in the game for a long time
that "fresh" etc. stuff is in shorter supply, than perhaps it was, so..
less posting.
personally, I've only been really hot on pool a few years
and already, I feel less prone to mining certain aspects of the game
it doesn't mean I'm less curious, but it does mean that I'm evolving as a student
for that, I happily bow to the existence and generosity of this forum
but given the recent results of folks' ages here
I can't help but wonder if that's part of why there's maybe less pool here
and more silence and aggressiveness, politics, etc.
"new blood" (or lack thereof) in the game has been a topic of discussion
I guess there's something to that?

and yea, the political/social climate in our country/world right now is..vibrant.
so just as on the table, it's good sometimes to take breaks, reflect and renew
and maybe have a drink, etc...


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08-06-2020, 06:37 AM

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something that occurs to me relates to what hu said recently
he (and many others here) have had skin in the game for a long time
that "fresh" etc. stuff is in shorter supply, than perhaps it was, so..
less posting.
personally, I've only been really hot on pool a few years
and already, I feel less prone to mining certain aspects of the game
it doesn't mean I'm less curious, but it does mean that I'm evolving as a student
for that, I happily bow to the existence and generosity of this forum
but given the recent results of folks' ages here
I can't help but wonder if that's part of why there's maybe less pool here
and more silence and aggressiveness, politics, etc.
"new blood" (or lack thereof) in the game has been a topic of discussion
I guess there's something to that?

and yea, the political/social climate in our country/world right now is..vibrant.
so just as on the table, it's good sometimes to take breaks, reflect and renew
and maybe have a drink, etc...
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08-06-2020, 06:43 AM

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something that occurs to me relates to what hu said recently
he (and many others here) have had skin in the game for a long time
that "fresh" etc. stuff is in shorter supply, than perhaps it was, so..
less posting.
personally, I've only been really hot on pool a few years
and already, I feel less prone to mining certain aspects of the game
it doesn't mean I'm less curious, but it does mean that I'm evolving as a student
for that, I happily bow to the existence and generosity of this forum
but given the recent results of folks' ages here
I can't help but wonder if that's part of why there's maybe less pool here
and more silence and aggressiveness, politics, etc.
"new blood" (or lack thereof) in the game has been a topic of discussion
I guess there's something to that?

and yea, the political/social climate in our country/world right now is..vibrant.
so just as on the table, it's good sometimes to take breaks, reflect and renew
and maybe have a drink, and not post to the forum after the drinks
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08-07-2020, 06:34 AM

It took one full day for this thread to go to page 2. Man the forum is on fire!

36 members and 142 guests.

I wonder if this was due to a recent increase in lurkers?



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Exactly.. covid exists but the media has all of you hiding under your bed thinking your going to die from something that has less then .5 percent mortality rate
Did you know that one of Bill Gates favorite books is, "How to Lie with Statistics". It seems you'd be a fan. Are you going to be a nitrate expert soon since the news in Lebanon?

You both need to stay away from biology.



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177 guests and 20 signed in. I wonder why no one participates, is this a recent trend?



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Im not saying Covid is a hoax but you people who think its as bad as the media says it is may need to be seen by a mental specialist. The media and liberals have to flat out lie to try to make it look bad. Statistics prove that we have seen worse viruses recently and the healthy have never in history of the USA been quarantined before. And a certain segment of the population doesnt see something fishy going on here??
From the World Health Organization (you know, that vast global dominance conspiracy):

"COVID-19 causes more severe disease than seasonal influenza.

While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease.

Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected."


The WHO and our CDC agree: the COVID death rate is more than 50 times higher than the flu.

But whadda they know? Listen to Fox, Breitbart and Alex Jones instead - they're the real experts.

Willful ignorance kills.

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08-08-2020, 08:16 AM

People who dont wanna be safe, unfortunately, they might get infected!

AZB IS AWESOME> Tons of good stuff on the forum. Yeah, tons of arguing and debating, but, the beauty of that is: Scroll on past! You dont have to get involved or even look at it!!

I know I get sucked into a battle here and there, we all do at some point.

There is no better pool community online that I am aware of. Love it or leave it, it is what we have and we make it what it is. PEACE LOVE UNITY AND RESPECT.

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From the World Health Organization (you know, that vast global dominance conspiracy):

"COVID-19 causes more severe disease than seasonal influenza.

While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease.

Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected."


But whadda they know? Listen to Fox, Breitbart and Alex Jones instead - they're the real experts.

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People who dont wanna be safe, unfortunately, they might get infected!
The real crime is if they are infected they'll infect others - out of political partisanship. And who will bear the brunt of their stubbornness? Those who share their political "views" and also childishly refuse to take precautions.

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08-08-2020, 08:30 AM

Yeah an that is the worst part of this. People do not care about how their actions affect others.
Selfishness is what has made this COVID-19 spread the way it has! Numbers have never been
higher, thus proving what is being done to prevent the spread is ABSOLUTELY not working.
GODSPEED TO OUR COUNTRY!

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