Either 45 with no extens. or 30 with. 45sec with an extension is almost as bad as no clock. They also have to stop the rack inspections.
2019 WPA World 9 Ball - Qatar
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Not defending slow play.
Couldn’t agree more about the rack inspections.
I had you as way better than that.
"If it were me, on that table at that stage of that championship, I’d take as long a time as needed or more (never less). The only reasons for taking less time are being in a hurry cos you’ve got to be somewhere else (rather unlikely), bottling it, being an idiot, or because there is a shot clock. It would be an unrealistic expectation for players in this tournament to want to fall into any of those categories."
Clock question....??
Just curious, all this shot-clock talk has made me wonder: WHEN does the time start? When a player gets out of his chair and approaches table or after he reaches table and starts sizing-up their shot? Is there any standard procedure here or is at the whim of referee/TD?
Just curious, all this shot-clock talk has made me wonder: WHEN does the time start? When a player gets out of his chair and approaches table or after he reaches table and starts sizing-up their shot? Is there any standard procedure here or is at the whim of referee/TD?
I would think it would be once there are no balls moving on the table.
Looked it up and you're correct. Starts when balls stop moving/spinning and stops when either tip strikes CB or clock expires. Good call, thanx.
You'd of thought the WPA would of figured that out after HOW many decades have they been doing this? It has a feel of Old Politicians doing the work for a younger generation, that they have NOTHING in common with.
The US Open 9 ball has it right. Checking the rack is ok, but grooming/resetting after the fact is not allowed.
You get what you get, and the rackers (1 ref for 4 tables)....know what they are doing and get paid.
Snooker has it right, they don't tell you after running 40 points you have to play safe. One miss and you opponent can shoot till they miss, very exciting/kinda....but compared to up/down/look around WPA 9 ball. It's like going to the horse races, even if Snooker players play safeties for 20 minutes or more.
When/where did they say that?
1999 was the year Matchroom usurped the WPA and put on their own WPC without getting it sanctioned. They paid something like 60k for first, a big number back then (sadly it still is). The WPA tried to keep players from playing in it, threatening to ban them, but they went for the money anyway. Matchroom basically took the event away.
The WPA held their own version of the WPC afterwards and only a handful of top players attended. Varner won something like 10-15k for first. From then on the WPA had to play ball with Matchroom or become extinct.
5-6 minutes per rack is not bad. 10 minutes per rack is very slow!
Personally I like a 30 second clock with one extension per game. Accu-Stats uses a 40 second clock which seems long but still much better than no shot clock.
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45 seconds is typically reserved for One Pocket matches. There it makes sense.
Speaking of snooker. I just looked at the last 7 matches at this past weeks Scottish Open, and each players average shot time.
The longest was 29.6 sec and the shortest was 16.9 sec. The average was a little over 20 sec.
Yet some people think 45 sec is needed to decide how to play a shot in 9 ball.
I am okay with a longer shot clock in a game like one pocket where the correct shot isn't always obvious.
During the stream Ted L. said that a clock would be used starting next yr. Can't remember if he said it as WPA or QBSF decision.
Being in Qatar, they will be using a 60 second "hour glass" for a shot clock. Like the sands of time.....
That final i guess was using a sundial.Being in Qatar, they will be using a 60 second "hour glass" for a shot clock. Like the sands of time.....