I believe (and this is my own thought) that they are made in China by the Jian Ying company. I'm not sure of the American ties that company might have but I have reasonable evidence that Predator and Poison models are first made and marketed there. I have purchased several of their cues, which for cheap Chinese cues are of a decent quality IMHO, and a year or so later the same cue design will somehow appear in the Predator or Poison line of cues. I only ever purchased one with a laminated LD(?) shaft. I believe they called it a 'Y' core. Where the core is a 3-prong sort of Y shape and three additional pieces are inserted to form the circular shaft. Upon changing the tip I found the hollow front end. Interesting design, very solid hit. I always expected to see Poison come out with the 'Y' core but to my knowledge that never happened. Anyways, my thought is that after test marketing them with the Jian Ying label, they become either Predator, or Poison depending on how well the marketing went, and at that point the price will double, or triple (or fourple...). Other than the shafts, basic hard rock maple for Poison, or the Predator laminated pie configuration for Predator I think they are pretty much the shame. I think if you put a Predator shaft on the butt of any cue it pretty much becomes a Predator cue. Poison is just the "poor mans" Predator, minus the shaft but that can be easily remidied