What would You have done here?

Sharivari said:

I just published a new video (https://youtu.be/-AZTFLhDHM8) that deals with shot selection and probabilities. I think the concept should be clear for the majority. However this kind of video offers a lot to discuss about. And from the comments I got on YouTube I see that it has already started.

What would you have done on the following shots?

https://sharivari.net/azb/Shot-1.png

my shot: https://youtu.be/-AZTFLhDHM8?t=302

https://sharivari.net/azb/Shot-2.png

my shot: https://youtu.be/-AZTFLhDHM8?t=427

https://sharivari.net/azb/Shot-3.png

my shot: https://youtu.be/-AZTFLhDHM8?t=681


There are some shots where one shot selection is just right, and the other just wrong. But what we shouldn't forget is, that this doesn't count on every single shot. Everyone prefers different kind of shots and has different probabilities and strengths.

So: How would you have played the three example shots?

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1st shot shoot the ball into the pocket and you probably miss the 5 and would give you shape in the side or bottom corner.
I would have shot it in the side *

Bob Jewett said:

1. Roll past the 5 ball and play it back to the pocket you are standing by.

2. Thin the right side of the 5 and bring the cue ball off the foot rail with right side to park behind the 8. A chance for a double snooker.

3. Right side, come off the end cushion straight towards the 7.

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I like it!

magnetardo said:

1st shot ...
I would have shot it in the side

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Shot 1: Same, if slow roll would take the CB toward the 9 for the 5 in the same side.

Shot 2: ?? Need to see it at the table.

Shot 3: Bob's shot (cut 5 in corner w/right side to bring CB straight back uptable for 6 in same corner pocket)

pj
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Since a large part of this video was about shooting the shot that is within your skill set I see this a bit differently. The thin cut on the five to the corner is where I part ways with better players.

@600 fargo I feel I'm about 60% or maybe less to even make the five ball while attempting to get shape on the six. Most of my misses will leave the 5 hanging. That's a 40% sell out. Not confident.

Thinning the right side of the five with running english and trying to get the cue ball behind the 8 ball 3 rails is around 40-50% of parking it behind the 8 ball. Around the same odds of my running out. And this would be a game winner in all likelihood. Then the added consideration is even if I don't get behind the 8 ball I'm still about 90% to leave a longer harder shot than I just passed on. Notice the 8 is conveniently blocking a scratch so even if you run into it head on your opponent doesn't have an easy shot.

As much as I hate letting my opponent back to the table there is no doubt in my mind a three rail safety toward the 8 is my best option at my skill level.

I would play all 3 like Bob.
If I got funny on the 5 in the first shot
there are enough balls to play safe
near the end rail.
Very first shot is tough. The rest are pretty
routine.

The way you played out is fine. I myself feel that at times when we know we are
going to run the cue ball into something, like your first shot when the cue ball is
going to hit the five, instead of trying to avoid the five, don't, if your going to hit it
then hit it, push the five down to the bottom rail for a shot.
The worst thing that can happen, is your then playing a safety with a number
of balls to easily get in the way and leave a difficult hit for your opponent. However.
I think you end up with a good shot as if you would have hit the five with more speed
you would have ended up with a pretty easy cut to the bottom right corner

Shot 1, 4 I to corner, follow cb between the 5 and 8. Shoot 5 in left corner float over for 6 in opposite corner, cb 2 rails between 8&9. 7 into corner 8 opposite corner 9 same corner as 7.

Shot 2, shoot 5 just past 9 rolling onto 9 ball with cue ball hopefully frozen.

Shot 3, cut 5 into corner and 6 into same corner cb 2 rails between 8&9. Shoot 7 in corner by 9 ball 1 rail out 8 ball into opposite corner from 7 ad 9 ball into same corner as 7 ball.

Decided to give it a go

Sharivari said:

I just published a new video (https://youtu.be/-AZTFLhDHM8) that deals with shot selection and probabilities. I think the concept should be clear for the majority. However this kind of video offers a lot to discuss about. And from the comments I got on YouTube I see that it has already started.

What would you have done on the following shots?

https://sharivari.net/azb/Shot-1.png

my shot: https://youtu.be/-AZTFLhDHM8?t=302

https://sharivari.net/azb/Shot-2.png

my shot: https://youtu.be/-AZTFLhDHM8?t=427

https://sharivari.net/azb/Shot-3.png

my shot: https://youtu.be/-AZTFLhDHM8?t=681


There are some shots where one shot selection is just right, and the other just wrong. But what we shouldn't forget is, that this doesn't count on every single shot. Everyone prefers different kind of shots and has different probabilities and strengths.

So: How would you have played the three example shots?

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You have posted some really good stuff, so I decided to really dig in on this one. I clicked on first link and paused video. I set up the layout, and placed doughnuts. I have not looked at any subsequent posts or links. First time I ever put doughnuts down. My plan; play right hand follow, get on three, shoot 4 in side, shoot five in same pocket. Shot too much follow, not enough side. Left with too much angle on three. Like Mike says, “ everyone has a plan, til you get punched in the face “. I decided to cut the three, bump the five. Made shot, got shape on four. Five ball hit long rail, but did not open up. Had to play shape on 5/8 combo. It’s a miracle! Made this and bumped nine, to open up path to seven. Easy out, from there. I’m going to try this rack, a couple more times, then look at links and posts.