10 ball, world skill level test, let's find out how players rate.

realkingcobra

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Provide info on table make, pocket size, cloth, table condition.

1) balls must be racked with a triangle, 1 ball on the foot spot.
2)balls racked 1, then 2,3, then 4,10,5, then 6,7,8,9 in that order.
3) break, add up bonus points, 1 point for any pocketed balls, 1 point for each ball past the side pockets, up to 4 bonus points, if the 10 is pocketed on the break, it still counts, but respots.
4) a scratch or cue ball off the table is a no count, but the inning still gets counted.
5) play begins where the cue ball lays after the break, and all balls pocketed then are added up at 1 point per ball. A miss ends the inning. Any balls pocketed on a scratch are not counted, and any 10 ball pocketed legally shall count as the end of the inning, and count as a full rack run, and count all the remaining balls on the table for a run maximum of 10 points.

6) 10 innings are required to finish the test. The maximum possible points is 150, which would require pocketing the 10 ball on the break in all 10 racks.

7) jump cues are not allowed during the test.

Does anyone want to help establish some kind of idea what skills are needed to kind of get some idea what test scoring would look like? Maybe we can build a running list of player ranking based on the test score results.
 

realkingcobra

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This test has nothing to do with playing the ghost, it is simply a look at a players ability to pocket balls when playing 10 ball. There is no winner, no loser, there's only your overall score, being compared to everone else's and where you stand on a scale.
 

realkingcobra

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Breaking, scoring no bonus points, but pocketing all the balls in each of the 10 racks would result in a perfect score of 100.
 

Dan_B

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Wouldn't break & runs have bonus points?
A break & run is 1 inning?

The target is 10 innings?
 
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buckshotshoey

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Wouldn't break & runs have bonus points?
A break & run is 1 inning?

The target is 10 innings?

I would think if it is a break and run, the inning is not over. It continues into the next rack. Theoretically you can play 10 racks in one inning. Not likely, but possible.
 

realkingcobra

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Wouldn't break & runs have bonus points?
A break & run is 1 inning?

Only counts as 1 inning, with a total points earned. Maximum points that can be scored on a break and run, including making the 10 on the break, and respotting it woud be 15 points. Take 2 players, who consistently beat the ghost 10-7 each, 10 times in a row. Well, that may give you a Fargo rating for each player, but it don't give you insight in to how those 2 may play against each other. But on the smill level test, repeated testing, player A may be consistently posting a score of 116, while player B is consistently posting a score of 94. When it comes time for those 2 players to match up in a race to 21, i would be willing to bet player A is going to be the winner, based on better ball pocketing skills, but the unknown factor becomes how well their defensive playing abilities are. But in offensive play, player A is tbe better player.
 

realkingcobra

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I would think if it is a break and run, the inning is not over. It continues into the next rack. Theoretically you can play 10 racks in one inning. Not likely, but possible.

Continuous play only pertains to 14.1 as there is ony 1 break to start a game. All other games of pool end once the last ball is pocketed, or in the case of this skill level test, once a ball has been missed. Each inning begines with a new break.
 

Dan_B

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OK, so, its the number of points made during 10 innings of play?
For instance if; you take 10 innings, playing self - not a ghost,
to get out on the 10 ball within one rack,
keep practicing in order to make the cut for the next quarter finals?

OK, I just seen the latest breaking news, scratch the above..
 
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ChrisinNC

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Sounds like a breaking test to me
I agree - too much importance on breaking, making balls on the break, and leaving yourself a shot on the lowest ball after the break. Seems like a better way to rate ball pocketing skills would be at least an option to take ball-in-hand after the break, if you happen to have no shot.
 

Dan_B

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You get the break, it doesn't count as an inning, just the points, if any?
 

realkingcobra

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OK, so, its the number of points made during 10 innings of play?
For instance if; you take 10 innings, playing self - not a ghost,
to get out on the 10 ball within one rack,
keep practicing in order to make the cut for the next quarter finals?

10 racks, 10 amount of points awared per each rack, totaled up at the end of 10 innings, give you an over all score. Anyone in the world can take their test on a sanctioned test table, submit their score to the world pool counsel. At the end of the test period, the WPC draws line under the highest 128 test scores, identified as the PRO'S for the upcoming world quarterly tournament, notification is sent to the 128 players as to who the top 16 players are, and if any of the top 16 can not make the tournament, then the next player down is notified. This process continues on until the 16 player field has been picked. This process of selection is repeated before each quarterly event, and is the same basis used pryor to any quarterly event. For the Pro tour stop, 2 weeks after the quarterly has finished, once again if any of those top 16 are unable to play in the Pro tour stop, Pro players again are drawn from the 128 player Pro pond to take their place.
 

realkingcobra

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You get the break, it doesn't count as an inning, just the points, if any?

You get the break, and the first shot after the break in an attempt to run all the balls off the table in rotation, you just don't get to start with ball in hand. The points awarded to the player on the break is a way of gaging a players ability to break, for example, if a player soft breaks, has a shot to get started with after each soft break, is sucessful at running all 10 racks in a row without a miss, and ends up with a perfect score of 100, it may NOT be a high enough score to gain entry into the top 128 players field, because there's still an additional 50 points that can be picked up and added to that perfect 100 point score. So, the player that scores a 100, may in fact be a Pro player, but the players ranking may end up at the bottom of the list and the player may in fact have a 100 players above him score wise.
 
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