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04-11-2019, 03:37 PM

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is all I got to say, well stated. Except second to last one, that will cut in half your possible games at many pool halls.
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04-11-2019, 03:41 PM

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Here is some info that might help quantify where your 489 sits relative to others.

We have 144 players in our league with established Fargo ratings.
The high Fargo rating in our league is 681.
The low Fargo rating in our league is 67.
The average Fargo rating in our league is 443.3.
The median Fargo rating in our league is 450.

So a 489 would be definitely be above average in our league.
About 50th out of 144.
Hope that helps.

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Our league the results are 82 players

615 is the high and 154 is the low

Average player is 418 and the median is 425.

489 would put you in 22nd place here out of the 82.

Sounds like they play slightly better in Santa Barbara than they do here.

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04-11-2019, 03:43 PM

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Our league the results are 82 players

615 is the high and 154 is the low

Average player is 418 and the median is 425.

489 would put you in 22nd place here out of the 82.

Sounds like they play slightly better in Santa Barbara than they do here.

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FYI, Mike Page put out a chart before with ALL of the Fargo games and players included. The average of every player in Fargo is right about 550, which makes me pretty much exactly an average player in the group hehe.

So your average is quite a bit bellow all of Fargo players.

But you need to think about the fact that if a player is in Fargo they are likely to be actual players so an average player in Fargo is well above just an average pool player you run across in a random table in a bar or pool hall.

Our area USAPL league has several players over 600, and a few under that should be in the 600s. I think our highest is in the 640s.


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04-11-2019, 03:46 PM

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It is strictly wins and losses. But everyone is linked together like the 6 degrees of separation thing.

I saw on Facebook where they had a booth set up at one of the recent events that shows how you’re connected to SVB.


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04-11-2019, 03:52 PM

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If you cant tell someone is hiding their speed in the first set you have no business playing strangers.

Also thats why its called gambling.
From the days when I used to gamble, I used to say, "I can tell your speed from how you approach the table for your first shot, how you bridge, how you set up behind the ball, and how you rack." Most good gamblers might be able to hide one or two of these things, but I've never seen anyone hide them all for more than a game or two.

Low-level gamblers give themselves away by how they rack.
  
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04-11-2019, 04:02 PM

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From the days when I used to gamble, I used to say, "I can tell your speed from how you approach the table for your first shot, how you bridge, how you set up behind the ball, and how you rack." Most good gamblers might be able to hide one or two of these things, but I've never seen anyone hide them all for more than a game or two.

Low-level gamblers give themselves away by how they rack.
That might work for C players and below. The better they
play, some are very good at hiding alot of things.
If you play A speed and play " full speed" they really have to start showing you something to win.
  
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04-11-2019, 04:28 PM

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That might work for C players and below. The better they
play, some are very good at hiding alot of things.
If you play A speed and play " full speed" they really have to start showing you something to win.
That may well be true. Though I learned the bulk of my game from a trio of hustlers back in South St. Louis 30 years ago, and it was from them that I learned how to spot hustlers.

And I've played some pretty high level players over the years, though not very many in the last 8 or 10 years. Scott Frost was among them back when the Northern Lounge was still a popular pool hangout in north Phoenix, probably more than ten years ago now. I never won a match against him, but I could steal a game now and again when I was deep in the zone. And/or if he was having an off night.

I remember the first time I saw Scott play at the Northern (my first time seeing him there, not his first time playing there I'm sure), and without knowing his name or anything about him, I knew he was one of the best players I'd ever seen after his second shot.

I wasn't playing him that night, so I had the golden opportunity to just observe both players without having to think about how I'd play the table. It wasn't a difficult shot, but it wasn't the shot I initially thought he'd take, and it was his decision to leave the CB where he did that told me that he was was planning at a very high level. And how easy it was for him to put it there.

But as I said earlier, most gamblers I've run across will give themselves away early in a match, in my limited experience.
  
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Watching and playing Scott in his prime is a special
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04-11-2019, 05:12 PM

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Are there players that sandbag in league to purposely carry a low Fargo? Makes it easy to get into money matches to the unknown that think they're stealing.

Players might sandbag the last rack if it doesn’t matter to the winning the round. But that doesn’t add up aggressively enough to affect your Fargo. You could dump more aggressively but the team might be hip to that and not appreciate you as a teammate. Plus strong players mostly want to win. Its what made them good. How boring would it be showing up week in and week out dumping games?


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04-11-2019, 06:49 PM

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From the days when I used to gamble, I used to say, "I can tell your speed from how you approach the table for your first shot, how you bridge, how you set up behind the ball, and how you rack." Most good gamblers might be able to hide one or two of these things, but I've never seen anyone hide them all for more than a game or two.

Low-level gamblers give themselves away by how they rack.
"I've never caught anyone hiding them all for more than a game or two."



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