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OK, it's confirmed. You have the DNA makeup to be a professional pool player.



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One day I was at a place called Afton Billiards and was playing a guy named Jim the Painter, He made a bet with me that he would put up $200 if I could beat him in a race to 9 while spotting me the wild 7 vs if I lost I had to sign up for the U.S. Army. He had a recruiter there watching the match. I lost and I signed up as I promised. I only stuck it out for 3 years but when I got out I came back to St Louis and began playing pool again regularly.
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Yes, 3 years of my life wasted when I could have been working on my pool game instead.
  
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Yes, 3 years of my life wasted when I could have been working on my pool game instead.
I wouldn't call serving your country a waste of your life. Trying to become a professional pool player is definitely more of a waste. Sorry just the truth.
  
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I wouldn't call serving your country a waste of your life. Trying to become a professional pool player is definitely more of a waste. Sorry just the truth.
I'd have to agree here. Sorry.

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11-13-2013, 01:29 PM

I'd say its only 3 wasted years if you didn't get a marketable skill from them, tell us about what you did for 3 years in the Army (job, quals, assignments, etc)
  
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I'd say its only 3 wasted years if you didn't get a marketable skill from them, tell us about what you did for 3 years in the Army (job, quals, assignments, etc)
14T Patriot Missile Maintainer Operator at FT Bliss TX and overseas in Saudi Arabia.

The normal duty of a 14T is to set up the launcher and get it ready to fire the missile to intercept aircraft.

I was assigned to maintenance so it was my job to test the equipment and when something malfunctioned to replace circuitry or motorized parts.

I have nothing against the armed service, however not everyone is cut out for it, I did my job well but all the other stuff you put up with was not for me the only thing I did for 3 years is wait patiently to get out and dream of getting back on the pool table. Every minute I spend doing something other than practicing or gambling at pool or competing in a tournament has always been misspent time and keeping me further from my goal of becoming a world class player before I die of old age.
  
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Yes, 3 years of my life wasted when I could have been working on my pool game instead.
That's what scares me a little, OK, a lot. I'm rooting for Gene and you to do well. But you are not a gambler, you are more of a degenerate gambler. I don't mean that as an insult, but I grew up around gamblers, lots of them, some you have heard of.

And I can tell you, the ones that did the best, (only a handful) would never in a million years make a bet on 3 years of their life, or putting up their only means of transportation in a pool game.

Yeah, it shows you got gamble, but not so much brains. And brains always, and I mean always, trumps follks with so called "heart" or "gamble". Just the way its always been, and the way it always will be. "smartie artie" comes to mind as one of the best gamblers out of Chicago, not because he had the most gamble, but because he had the most brains. He's not taking a game he can't win, period. There's just no point to it. I mean, he was not a nit, folks thought they could beat him at the "games" he set, but Artie knew they could not.

You need to listen to Gene more, and listen to yourself less. You can always getter smarter if you try, and put forth the effort by saying the "old" ways were just wrong, it's time to move into the smart gambler mind set, let the "suckers" go off, and if you don't get the game you want, WALK the FCK away. By not walking nearly as much, they know not to give you the game you deserve. They know you are "biting" at the bit, so they don't have any incentive to move the game to even. Hope that makes sense. I'm still rooting for the both of you, but you gotta start listening more, and talking less imho. Good Luck !!


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Good advice there RJ - 11-13-2013, 03:32 PM

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That's what scares me a little, OK, a lot. I'm rooting for Gene and you to do well. But you are not a gambler, you are more of a degenerate gambler. I don't mean that as an insult, but I grew up around gamblers, lots of them, some you have heard of.

And I can tell you, the ones that did the best, (only a handful) would never in a million years make a bet on 3 years of their life, or putting up their only means of transportation in a pool game.

Yeah, it shows you got gamble, but not so much brains. And brains always, and I mean always, trumps follks with so called "heart" or "gamble". Just the way its always been, and the way it always will be. "smartie artie" comes to mind as one of the best gamblers out of Chicago, not because he had the most gamble, but because he had the most brains. He's not taking a game he can't win, period. There's just no point to it. I mean, he was not a nit, folks thought they could beat him at the "games" he set, but Artie knew they could not.

You need to listen to Gene more, and listen to yourself less. You can always getter smarter if you try, and put forth the effort by saying the "old" ways were just wrong, it's time to move into the smart gambler mind set, let the "suckers" go off, and if you don't get the game you want, WALK the FCK away. By not walking nearly as much, they know not to give you the game you deserve. They know you are "biting" at the bit, so they don't have any incentive to move the game to even. Hope that makes sense. I'm still rooting for the both of you, but you gotta start listening more, and talking less imho. Good Luck !!
it's been a struggle but she is starting to come around.

We argue a little but I don't give an inch.

Your spot on with your assessment This is not just teaching Rhea how to play but changing the mindset totally so she can survive once I'm gone.

Plus trying to hang on to my ars while i'm with her on the road.

This is the biggest challenge i have had in my life but it has been fun.

The road never gets old for me, just a little bumpy sometimes.

The more right moves we make out here the smoother it is.

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it's been a struggle but she is starting to come around.

We argue a little but I don't give an inch.

Your spot on with your assessment This is not just teaching Rhea how to play but changing the mindset totally so she can survive once I'm gone.

Plus trying to hang on to my ars while i'm with her on the road.

This is the biggest challenge i have had in my life but it has been fun.

The road never gets old for me, just a little bumpy sometimes.

The more right moves we make out here the smoother it is.

thanks again.
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Before I met Gene

I began playing pool at the age of 19 at a place called Ride the Rail in St Louis, MO in 1995. The first couple years I just shot 8 ball on a valley cougar maybe once a month for an hour or so. In 1997 I finally decided I wanted to try the 9 foot table. That is when I learned that many of the players there actually gamble at pool and it intrigued me even more. Most people offered me enormous spots to get me to play with them. By 1998 I was fired from my job and began playing pool every day.

One day I was at a place called Afton Billiards and was playing a guy named Jim the Painter, He made a bet with me that he would put up $200 if I could beat him in a race to 9 while spotting me the wild 7 vs if I lost I had to sign up for the U.S. Army. He had a recruiter there watching the match. I lost and I signed up as I promised. I only stuck it out for 3 years but when I got out I came back to St Louis and began playing pool again regularly.

My first job outside of the service in 2002 was at a call center selling AT&T Wireless, I was rather good at sales and was the top earner for several months with giant commission checks that I used to fuel my passion for gambling at pool. I started playing 9-ball and stopped playing 8-ball as often. I would play anyone who walked in the door. An A- player back then could spot me the last 5 and I still had no chance as running 3 balls in order was unlikely for me.

Then the real danger began, in 2003 when I found a new game called 1 pocket where even more people gambled. I played Ryan Huelsman from Cahokia IL that game and he gave me the silliest spot of 40-3 and I had no chance. His friend JP that was with him gave me the same spot with the same results. I was terrible, but I kept trying I played everyone at any pool game offered.

One day I played Jarod at Ride the Rail. We played 8-8 1 pocket but he was giving me 4 games on the wire going to 5. I just needed to win 1 even game. Jarod posted $500 with Ron who worked there. I put up the title to my van along with the keys. On the 5th rack everything seemed to be going my way I only needed 1 ball with a ball sitting deep in my hole and Jarod still needed all 8. Jarod pulled off a really odd shot where the ball came up onto the rail and dropped back down on top of the ball in my hole shooting it straight for his hole and the cb bounced back onto the table and rolled toward the spot. Needless to say Jarod ran 8 and out after that and I gave him my Van.

He started doing donuts in the parking lot with the van. After that I quit pool for a few years. In 2004 I began my own buisiness which I ran successfully for 3 years. Eventually when the market was saturated in 2007 I began going to the poolroom again. There was a whole new batch of patrons at the poolroom I was used to going to. I met Coty who was the only B- player at the poolroom in 2007 everyone else except for Ron who worked there was a C or C+.

I began playing 9 ball again gambling once a week on the weekends with anyone who would play for money. Some of the weaker players played me even and anyone who was a C+ or better gave me a spot. In 2008 I got a job at Ride the Rail billiards and on my days off I was able to play. By now I was playing almost every single day and starting to get better, I was now a solid C player there and even capable of winning an 8 ball tournament for C players occasionally. Before 2008 was over I was let go.

So I began to seek new employment and I got hired at a temp agency as a computer technician for $17/hr. I was a subcontractor for IBM and had to install all the double screens at Meryl Lynch downtown. After that I got a job for AIG selling life & accidental insurance. I only stuck with that job for a couple months but I was able to get a real nice brand new car with a GPS.

When I left that job I decided I was gonna try to go on the road with the money I saved up. This old guy at the poolroom named Jimmy needed a ride to Knoxville TN. I agreed to drop him off there and start my journey in Knoxville.

I ended up staying in TN for 6 months. During that time I also went as far as Alabama, Georgia, and even the Derby City Classic. I never competed in any of the big events but I always took someone with me and funded them in the tournaments for a split of what they made. I did however play 8 ball at every bar I could along the way for $5 here and there. I also cashed in 1 out of every 3 8-ball bar box tournament I got in and I was chasing a tournament every single day of the week to keep money in my pocket.

When I left TN and came back to St Louis I played a guy named Fish. He used to be able to spot me quite a bit of weight before I went to TN but after I came back I was probably a C+. I got him to spot me the wild 7 and beat him out of $400 on the first night I came back to STL.

I stayed in St Louis for about 6 more months before I went dead broke. Then I got a job at a bar as a cook. The bar had pool tables in it and an APA league. I joined the league and played as a 5. I didnt really like the league it costed $7 to play a match plus you had to put quarters in the table it was all a big money sink in my opinion. I ended up having to quit that job after a couple months because the repo people would have figured out where I park my car. So I took a job at another bar in Herculaneum MO where I worked for a year and a half. That bar closed down but I did play pool once a week in their local tournament and got 1st place in the tournament on numerous weeks during that year and a half.

I ended up going to U-City and quit pool for another year after that. Then I got a job at Taco Bell for 1 month. My mom called me one day from New Mexico and told me there was a call center hiring down the street from where she lived named Victoria Secret Direct. She sent me a bus ticket and told me to just quit Taco Bell.

So then I moved in with her in Oct 2011. I got the job at Victoria Secret on Halloween day. I worked there a year and then a big bank bought the call center and converted the employees to a new role if they elected to stay. I chose to become a bill collector. and worked there for 9 months. In January 2013 my friend convinced me to compete at Rustys in Arlington TX, it was my first WBPA Qualifier I had ever competed in. I ended up getting 13th place, and then the next day I played in the 2nd chance tournament and got 1st place. In March 2013 I drove to Phoenix AZ to play in the AWBT and ended up getting 9th place. and then the next day I played in the 2nd chance tournament and got 1st place. Then in May I drove 14 hours to Katy TX. I made it through the first day undefeated. The 2nd day I won my first match and made it to the match for the hot seat with Si Ming Chen. She beat me 7-0. Then I lost my next match 7-4. So I ended up taking 3rd place out of 46 women.

Then I got a promotion at work my last day in NM was scheduled for the end of June. I packed up my stuff and drove to a tournament at Jamaica Joes in Oklahoma. There I drew Nicole Keeney as my first match and I lost 7-1. My next match I lost 7-6. and so I headed to Da Bar where I won 1st place in their local tournament. Then I left OK and headed to MO stopped in Barnhardt and matched up with Shelby Locatti, she was coming back from Tunica MS. We ended up breaking even. Then I visited my old boss in St Louis MO and he gave me a ring from his coin shop.

Then I drove the rest of the way to Columbus Ohio my new job was in Westerville Ohio and I began work on July 3rd. I worked a split shift so every day in between shifts I would drive to Whitehall and play on Chris Bartrams table until I met Gene.
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11-13-2013, 03:44 PM

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There is no way she would agree to the weight I would need in order for a fair match she is light years ahead of my speed I cant even beat the 4 ball ghost yet.
The above contradicts what you posted earlier, in response to Eric.:

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Eric, I can interpret what you are getting at, but your estimate of my speed is pretty far off. I am only considered a C player in Indianapolis, everywhere else I have been to I have been at least a B- speed.

When I left the APA back in 2009 I was a 6 at that time.

When I was in OHIO going off like a rocket right before Gene met me I was playing around APA 7 speed.

And my game has improved drastically since then. In fact I strongly feel that the few people in OHIO that spotted me 1 ball could now get 1 ball from me and I would like it.

By the time I got to NC they had me playing as a skill level 8 in their tournament. And by the time I got to VA they had me rated as a B+.


I know I am not a B+ yet but I am at least a B speed, I can put together a 2 or 3 pack in 9 ball on a tight 9 footer, and I couldn't do that a few months ago.


So there you have it that is where I stand now... which is why APA 4 or 5 is laughable and yes I would play an APA 5 for money and be the favorite in every city.
Which contrasts directly with your other reply in another thread:

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In VNEA I'm a 4, in BCA I'm a 4, in NAPA I'm a 5, in APA 8 ball I'm a 4, and in APA 9 Ball I'm a 5


But, don't let my skill level scare you, I bet real high.

I took the time to read this documentary thread and your drive is admirable. You have more heart than I do because as much as I love pool, I would not give up everything for it.

You have the benefit of a prestigious instructor and an aiming system. You are, by your own admission, a very strong player. I am a self-taught player who uses ghost ball and is a C player most days. The fact that you can comfortably run 2 to 3 packs on tight tables terrifies the bejeezus out of me.

Forgive me for posting in your thread, but your reply in the other thread left me unclear as to whether you want to play or not. I believe you do, since you told me not to be scared and that you bet real high. Although you have represented yourself as playing at different levels, you would agree I must take you at your word that you can run packs of 9-ball. I do not play anywhere near your level, so I would not give you weight.

You bet "real high". I do not bet "real high", but I will bet what I have. Tell me what you would like to play for and I will see if I can meet your number. If I cannot meet your number on my own, I will see if there are people willing to stake me for the remainder.
  
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11-13-2013, 05:40 PM

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