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making a Sleeved joint - 10-20-2019, 07:10 AM

hi guys, do you have any insights or advice pertaining to this operation? i plan to turn down a SS joint a couple of mm and press fit a white joint over ( probably arvorin or elforyn)

would the epoxy bond the SS and plastic? also, would a press fit suffice or must the plastic be threaded on? thanks
  
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10-21-2019, 06:41 AM

Cut grooves in the wood tenon and the outside of the plastic and slip fit with good epoxy will be fine,
  
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10-21-2019, 07:47 AM

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Cut grooves in the wood tenon and the outside of the plastic and slip fit with good epoxy will be fine,
I think he is wanting to leave the stainless steel sleeve on the joint. Then turn it down a little in order to cover the stainless sleeve with a plastic sleeve...


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10-21-2019, 08:35 AM

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I think he is wanting to leave the stainless steel sleeve on the joint. Then turn it down a little in order to cover the stainless sleeve with a plastic sleeve...
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sleeve - 10-21-2019, 09:37 AM

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That is correct!
Your going to have to cut the stainless collar then you need an inside taper on the white sleeve to match and of course once the sleeve is on securely you can taper the outside. So you better figure out the dimensions to allow all that and end up with the original size so it matches the shaft collar.

A slow drying epoxy will hold the sleeve to the stainless.

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10-21-2019, 11:39 AM

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Your going to have to cut the stainless collar then you need an inside taper on the white sleeve to match and of course once the sleeve is on securely you can taper the outside. So you better figure out the dimensions to allow all that and end up with the original size so it matches the shaft collar.

A slow drying epoxy will hold the sleeve to the stainless.

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10-21-2019, 04:15 PM

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Your going to have to cut the stainless collar then you need an inside taper on the white sleeve to match and of course once the sleeve is on securely you can taper the outside. So you better figure out the dimensions to allow all that and end up with the original size so it matches the shaft collar.

A slow drying epoxy will hold the sleeve to the stainless.

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Can't he cut the stainless sleeve straight eliminating the need to taper the inside of the plastic? I think that's what I would do.
  
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10-21-2019, 05:13 PM

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Can't he cut the stainless sleeve straight eliminating the need to taper the inside of the plastic? I think that's what I would do.
Sure just means cutting more metal maybe the collar will overheat and weakened the epoxy.

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10-21-2019, 06:28 PM

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Sure just means cutting more metal maybe the collar will overheat and weakened the epoxy.

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Iíd be more concerned with the amount of SS joint left after this thinning down.
  
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10-21-2019, 07:47 PM

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Sure just means cutting more metal maybe the collar will overheat and weakened the epoxy.

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Iíd be more concerned with the amount of SS joint left after this thinning down.
With all due respect guys, this is getting kind of silly.
  
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10-22-2019, 06:13 AM

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With all due respect guys, this is getting kind of silly.
The side wall of Schon SS joint collars is thin enough that any machining down of the side wall will cause the SS joint collar to fail. So no itís not silly. Just because you arenít aware of the problems that could arise, doesnít mean the problems donít exist. Specially considering the OP wants to sleeve over the SS with a thermoform plastic.
  
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10-22-2019, 06:51 AM

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The side wall of Schon SS joint collars is thin enough that any machining down of the side wall will cause the SS joint collar to fail. So no it’s not silly. Just because you aren’t aware of the problems that could arise, doesn’t mean the problems don’t exist. Specially considering the OP wants to sleeve over the SS with a thermoform plastic.

Very good point. Hopefully the O. P. Is aware of what the i.d. thread is of the existing joint is. 5/8 thread or 3/4. If I didn't know, I would taper it. If I knew it was a 5/8 thread, straight cut is ok.


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10-22-2019, 07:22 AM

I would cut it straight and just deal with what i have left if that is the desired approach. But I think I would just heat and remove the joint.
  
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10-22-2019, 07:58 AM

It all depends on what you want for a final product.

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10-22-2019, 09:45 AM

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