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10-05-2019, 01:35 PM

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I would wait for Trentís answer but I think they are flush. I would go with the gc6 too but thatís 4 grand more.
Iíve seen them protruding slightly... not sure if thatís from installation or out of the box fit. Four thou is slot of money. The Diamond is a bulldozer. It is a tank. Nothing not to like ..... but some people think the pockets are too tight. Give that thought before getting one. I like them a lot and Iím an average shooter. Iíd like to know the delivery schedule on a new Diamond. Another thing to consider.... Diamonds get played on at Tournaments and sold immediately after at a reduced price. They are not USED tables.





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10-05-2019, 02:01 PM

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Iíve seen them protruding slightly... not sure if thatís from installation or out of the box fit. Four thou is slot of money. The Diamond is a bulldozer. It is a tank. Nothing not to like ..... but some people think the pockets are too tight. Give that thought before getting one. I like them a lot and Iím an average shooter. Iíd like to know the delivery schedule on a new Diamond. Another thing to consider.... Diamonds get played on at Tournaments and sold immediately after at a reduced price. They are not USED tables.
Iím a little worried about the diamond not having solid wood. It is very humid here were I live. My gc is solid wood and is not sagging after 50 years. I have thought about the tournament tables. I would think they would be sold directly through diamond. It was funny when I contacted diamond. They werenít rude but they were insistent on contacting a dealer.
  
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10-05-2019, 02:22 PM

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Iím a little worried about the diamond not having solid wood. It is very humid here were I live. My gc is solid wood and is not sagging after 50 years. I have thought about the tournament tables. I would think they would be sold directly through diamond. It was funny when I contacted diamond. They werenít rude but they were insistent on contacting a dealer.
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Diamonds get played on at Tournaments and sold immediately after at a reduced price. They are not USED tables.
Not so much all true. They do not sell them like they used to. They cannot even keep up with production as is, what makes sense about selling them all at the discounted prices they used to. They have "fleets" of Tourney tables and they maintain them so well that you would not be able to look at them an say they are used.

The Expo does sell them at a pretty good discount, that is because they buy all of them at dealer cost and then sell them all at the end. Diamond does sell them from the factory. IMO I would go with new, T. used are only $400 less than new and you get used cloth. Delivery schedule on a new Diamond is 10-12 weeks, kind of matters where you live. Here is the price sheet:



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10-06-2019, 05:27 AM

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Not so much all true. They do not sell them like they used to. They cannot even keep up with production as is, what makes sense about selling them all at the discounted prices they used to. They have "fleets" of Tourney tables and they maintain them so well that you would not be able to look at them an say they are used.

The Expo does sell them at a pretty good discount, that is because they buy all of them at dealer cost and then sell them all at the end. Diamond does sell them from the factory. IMO I would go with new, T. used are only $400 less than new and you get used cloth. Delivery schedule on a new Diamond is 10-12 weeks, kind of matters where you live. Here is the price sheet:



As for the GC 6 castings they are almost completely flush.

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Not so much all true. They do not sell them like they used to. They cannot even keep up with production as is, what makes sense about selling them all at the discounted prices they used to. They have "fleets" of Tourney tables and they maintain them so well that you would not be able to look at them an say they are used.

The Expo does sell them at a pretty good discount, that is because they buy all of them at dealer cost and then sell them all at the end
Who's buying all of them at dealer cost up front? And trust me when I say, you can tell the difference between a tournament used table from a new one, hell, even Stevie Wonder could see the difference.
  
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Iím a little worried about the diamond not having solid wood. It is very humid here were I live. My gc is solid wood and is not sagging after 50 years. I have thought about the tournament tables. I would think they would be sold directly through diamond. It was funny when I contacted diamond. They werenít rude but they were insistent on contacting a dealer.
You referring to the frame? That laminated frame is STRONG and durable. I live in Ok. where its humid to say the least. They use laminated trusses to build houses and they last FOREVER. The laminated planks under the slate are marine-grade plywood. Same deal, will last forever.
  
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Who's buying all of them at dealer cost up front? And trust me when I say, you can tell the difference between a tournament used table from a new one, hell, even Stevie Wonder could see the difference.
Our community bought 4 Tourney tables from a local player/supplier. I think we paid more or close to a new one. They look played on as the white trail lines from breaking are present. I think the only advantage was not having to wait for new tables to be constructed. We got these fast. Personally we overpaid.





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You referring to the frame? That laminated frame is STRONG and durable. I live in Ok. where its humid to say the least. They use laminated trusses to build houses and they last FOREVER. The laminated planks under the slate are marine-grade plywood. Same deal, will last forever.
For my lack of knowledge, I will take your word for it. I always thought that plywood/fiberboard and moisture donít mix. I guess even solid wood and moisture donít mix well either. If I lived in Arizona or Las Vegas, I wouldnít be concerned but I live on the gulf coast.
  
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For my lack of knowledge, I will take your word for it. I always thought that plywood/fiberboard and moisture donít mix. I guess even solid wood and moisture donít mix well either. If I lived in Arizona or Las Vegas, I wouldnít be concerned but I live on the gulf coast.
Plywood. We had cabinets replaced in a master bathroom. Wood is all plywood. I guess it depends on the grade. Weíre in Florida where heat is a killer





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No I think RKC is sayin is I am creating a myth...

If you wanna buy a bunch of them, they will sell them cheaper I am sure.
When I got the flyer that is what I was told from Diamond.
Not here to argue with you RKC. I am sure you can make any deal you want happen, not everyone is at your level. I am not that high on the food chain with them like you are. I always tell people when they ask what Diamond instructed me to say. Whether it is a fact or it is bendable, that is purely up to Diamond.

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Plywood. We had cabinets replaced in a master bathroom. Wood is all plywood. I guess it depends on the grade. Weíre in Florida where heat is a killer
I just donít have the knowledge about plywood to debate either way. The weather here is probably close to where you live, Hot and humid. Iím looking forward to some cooler weather.
  
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