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10-18-2019, 09:31 AM

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i was going to buy that dufferin anniversary snooker cue you had for sale, saw it, went to message you in the morning and saw it was already sold, was a little bummed, but you probably wouldn't have sold to me anyway, lol
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Here our thread in which you told me to send it PayPal friends or family
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10-18-2019, 09:38 AM

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Here our thread in which you told me to send it PayPal friends or family
I know its DUMB-
I saw your avatar and the stroke city 33 and the bronze member THOUGHT THAT WAS YOUR ITRADER-
It was a mistake-
CHECK MY ITRADER HERE-
********** ALSO Check my name here ***BEFORE ITRADER- I am always very generous and helpful
I was taking a hit to give a good deal on a cue-
CHECK WITH KIDWILL -that's who I just got the cue from- I PAID HIM $$ 20.00 OVER HIS ASKING PRICE TO COVER THE FEES WHEN I BOUGH THE CUE


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Thread - 10-18-2019, 09:39 AM

We made the deal Duane. I made you a $575.00 offer and you said yes. I sent you the money and you accepted it. Now for some lame reason youíre making me out to be the bad guy Because I have no buyer/seller history. Basically you had sellers remorse. I saw you re uploaded that cue for $700.00. You paid $620.00. I offered $575.00. Deal was made.

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10-18-2019, 09:41 AM

Who gives a sh!t WHY Duane doesn't do business with new/unknown buyers? It's 100% his choice. He obviously has very good reasons for that policy, and just didn't catch that this was a new user. How likely do you all really think it is that a user completely new to the site, with minimal posts, decides to buy something expensive off a seller here, within a short time of joining the forum?

Not bloody well likely... Not selling to brand new folks, thinking about it that way, is a VERY good policy, when viewed from that angle. A lot of our older members simply aren't comfortable with Paypal protections (which invariably favor the buyer, btw...), and I don't fault Duane in the least for backing out, as long as he refunds the payment.

Those other folks talking crap, you are free to start selling expensive cues on here and to do business with all the new/unknown folks you like on here. Tell us how that works out.
  
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10-18-2019, 09:45 AM

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I have to find the thread here-FORBIDDING" Taking friends/family from unknown/new buyers-
I always try do the right thing buying/selling-
Them sending you money via Friends and Family puts them at risk, not you...


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10-18-2019, 09:48 AM

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Who gives a sh!t WHY Duane doesn't do business with new/unknown buyers? It's 100% his choice. He obviously has very good reasons for that policy, and just didn't catch that this was a new user. How likely do you all really think it is that a user completely new to the site, with minimal posts, decides to buy something expensive off a seller here, within a short time of joining the forum?

Not bloody well likely... Not selling to brand new folks, thinking about it that way, is a VERY good policy, when viewed from that angle. A lot of our older members simply aren't comfortable with Paypal protections (which invariably favor the buyer, btw...), and I don't fault Duane in the least for backing out, as long as he refunds the payment.

Those other folks talking crap, you are free to start selling expensive cues on here and to do business with all the new/unknown folks you like on here. Tell us how that works out.
You're certainly free to buy from and sell to whomever you choose. HOWEVER, if you make the choice AFTER having already agreed to a deal (let alone receiving payment!!!), then you are no better than a welcher.
  
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10-18-2019, 09:49 AM

Gosh, this seems dumb.

Seller was getting paid and if he was worried about any buyer complaint to Paypal,
which would have suspended the sale funds from being released to the seller, then
he could have asked for a certified check from the buyer. It looks to my eye the only
party that was damaged from this is the buyer and the seller screwed this deal up.

Maybe he got a better offer and needed a reason to cancel but this transaction should
have successfully gone and would have had I been the seller but Iím not.. IMO, the
seller revealed himself to be more unreliable than his buyer & it deserves being noted.

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10-18-2019, 09:52 AM

Very shaky thread. Had I purchased I would be screaming.

Seller has a right to be skittish since PayPal sides with seller complaints 95% of the time.

Not taking any sides. I would like to see both parties solve this. There used to be an escrow service on the forum that could solve this.

Postal money order offer from the buyer should solve this also. I think that might help both parties unless the cue is gone.

A great chance for both parties to resolve this I hope.

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10-18-2019, 09:53 AM

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Who gives a sh!t WHY Duane doesn't do business with new/unknown buyers? It's 100% his choice. He obviously has very good reasons for that policy, and just didn't catch that this was a new user. How likely do you all really think it is that a user completely new to the site, with minimal posts, decides to buy something expensive off a seller here, within a short time of joining the forum?

Not bloody well likely... Not selling to brand new folks, thinking about it that way, is a VERY good policy, when viewed from that angle. A lot of our older members simply aren't comfortable with Paypal protections (which invariably favor the buyer, btw...), and I don't fault Duane in the least for backing out, as long as he refunds the payment.

Those other folks talking crap, you are free to start selling expensive cues on here and to do business with all the new/unknown folks you like on here. Tell us how that works out.
Agree 100%. I love it when someone has like 80 posts over 11yrs, zero sales history and suddenly they're a sales referee. BTW, imo F&F is only for sending cash to a friend. All sales should be goods/services. Its worth the 3% everytime.
  
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10-18-2019, 09:54 AM

I have a friend who has a 100% I trader on here would you be willing to make it right and sell it for $575.00 to him if my itrader is the real problem?? Let me know Duane
  
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10-18-2019, 09:54 AM

This is all a little strange on how it came down. First of all, it's not a "high end" sale! I would say $575 is more on the low end of cues sales on here. Second, the buyer and seller should both do their due diligence before making a deal. If I had any reservations about selling a cue to someone unknown to me I would simply ask for a cashiers check, USPS money order or bank transfer in advance. If they declined to do that we wouldn't have a deal, that's all.

By the way, one caveat. When accepting cashiers/bank checks make sure the check is good (verify with your bank, they can do that for you) before shipping any goods or allowing a third party to pick them up. I have two bogus bank checks that look good as gold in a file in my office as a reminder. They are both for a healthy five figure amount for cars I had for sale. In both cases they wanted to send someone to pick up the car the day after I received the check. Once I had signed the title and handed them the keys I would have lost the car with little recourse.

I won't tell you what I wanted to do to the guy who was coming to pick up my car. My better judgement (acquired at a more mature age) stopped me. A younger Jay might have done something very bad to him. I'm too old to go to jail.


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10-18-2019, 09:56 AM

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Very shaky thread. Had I purchased I would be screaming.

Seller has a right to be skittish since PayPal sides with seller complaints 95% of the time.

Not taking any sides. I would like to see both parties solve this. There used to be an escrow service on the forum that could solve this.

Postal money order offer from the buyer should solve this also. I think that might help both parties unless the cue is gone.

A great chance for both parties to resolve this I hope.

Just my old stake hoss court judgement for what that's worth.

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See them resolve this? Shit, if I was the buyer, the seller could lower the price to a nickel and I still wouldnt buy it. This is a good way to lose what could have been a repeat customer and also other future customers.

Honestly, can't believe he posted the thread himself...


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10-18-2019, 09:56 AM

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Gosh, this seems dumb.

Seller was getting paid and if he was worried about any buyer complaint to Paypal,
which would have suspended the sale funds from being released to the seller, then
he could have asked for a certified check from the buyer. It looks to my eye the only
party that was damaged from this is the buyer and the seller screwed this deal up.

Maybe he got a better offer and needed a reason to cancel but this transaction should
have successfully gone and would have had I been the seller but Iím not.. IMO, the
seller revealed himself to be more unreliable than his buyer & it deserves being noted.

Matt B.
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IF I SELL CUE HERE-I let you know the buyer if you want
******* I KNOW THIS-
I always make great deals here on great cues and great prices-
I will certainly note that to myself


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10-18-2019, 09:58 AM

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I know its DUMB-
I saw your avatar and the stroke city 33 and the bronze member THOUGHT THAT WAS YOUR ITRADER-
It was a mistake-
CHECK MY ITRADER HERE-
********** ALSO Check my name here ***BEFORE ITRADER- I am always very generous and helpful
I was taking a hit to give a good deal on a cue-
CHECK WITH KIDWILL -that's who I just got the cue from- I PAID HIM $$ 20.00 OVER HIS ASKING PRICE TO COVER THE FEES WHEN I BOUGH THE CUE
Duane, that's gotta be the shittest excuse I have ever heard, I trust you when you say that happened, we probably all had a moment of not reading clearly, but that is your mistake, seems like you are shifting it to the buyer due to your negligence in the first place checking.


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We made the deal Duane. I made you a $575.00 offer and you said yes. I sent you the money and you accepted it. Now for some lame reason youíre making me out to be the bad guy Because I have no buyer/seller history. Basically you had sellers remorse. I saw you re uploaded that cue for $700.00. You paid $620.00. I offered $575.00. Deal was made.

Iím just here defending myself so people donít think Iím someone to ďburnĒ or ďscamĒ other people
Canceled, then reposted at a higher price, lol. I probably wouldn't have started this thread if I was Duane, but feedback is nice I guess Certainly his right to not want to sell to you, but after sending the money and everything, just seems shitty. Then he cancels and reposts at a higher price, I'd probably be a little disappointed myself, sure seems like sellers remorse.
  
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