Stats -- Bustamante vs. Chohan One-Pocket Race to 24, June 2020

AtLarge

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Here are some results from the Francisco Bustamante vs. Tony Chohan "Champions Challenge" One-Pocket match played June 16-18, 2020 at Buffalo's Billiards in Jefferson, Louisiana. Pay-per-view live streaming was provided by PoolActionTV.

This match was a 3-day race to 24 games, with play stopping each day when the leader reached multiples of 8. Remote commentary (by phone) was provided by Jeremy Jones. Ray Hansen also commentated each day from the site, and Josh Roberts commented from the site during all or part of 5 games on Day 3. Bustamante won the match 24 - 22.

Conditions -- The conditions for this match included:
- Diamond 9-foot table with 4 1/8" corner pockets and worn, blue Simonis cloth;
- Aramith Tournament balls with a measles cue ball;
- triangle rack;
- rack your own with alternating breaks;
- re-break if a ball is made on the break (occurred once);
- no shot clock; and
- lag for opening break on first day (won by Chohan)​

Match results, in games (Bustamante's score first)
Day 1 -- 7 - 8
Day 2 -- 9 - 6
Day 3 -- 8 - 8
Total -- 24 - 22​

Games won by breaker
Bustamante -- 11 of 23 (48%)
Chohan -- 10 of 23 (43%)
Total -- 21 of 46 (46%)​

Breaks by side of table (viewing from head to foot)
Bustamante -- Broke from his right 17 times (8 wins, 9 losses) and from his left 6 times (3 wins, 3 losses).
Chohan -- Broke from his right 2 times (both losses) and from his left 21 times (10 wins, 11 losses).​

Games won by player who scored the first point (or had it scored for him) [Note -- Excludes Game 1, as I didn't see the first part of that game.]
Bustamante -- 16 of 27 (59%)
Chohan -- 11 of 18 (61%)
Total -- 27 of 45 (60%)​

Scratches on the break -- Three times (a loss by Bustamante, a win and a loss by Chohan).

Balls made on the break -- Once (by Bustamante, requiring a re-break).

Games in which the player had the lead at some point
Bustamante -- 39 games, his 24 wins plus 15 games he lost.
Chohan -- 34 games, his 22 wins plus 12 games he lost.​

Ball counts by length of run -- The total ball counts resulted from the following runs and fouls. Counts are given for Bustamante first, then Chohan, then the total. [Note -- Excludes Game 1, as I didn't see the first part of that game.]
1 ball -- 52 times, 66 times, 118 times
2 balls -- 23, 24, 47
3 balls -- 11, 11, 22
4 balls -- 5, 5, 10
5 balls -- 3, 3, 6
6 balls -- 5, 5, 10
7 balls -- 4, 2, 6
8 balls -- 4, 2, 6
Plus balls pocketed by opponent -- 20, 30, 50
Minus fouls -- 39, 26, 65
TOTAL ball count -- 237, 246, 483 [Including Game 1, the total ball counts were 245, 252, 497]
Average game score -- 8 - 3.2 for games won by Bustamante, 8 - 2.4 for games won by Chohan, 8 - 2.8 in total.​

Distribution of run-outs to win the games. Counts are given for Bustamante first, then Chohan, then the total.
1 ball -- 10 times, 10 times, 20 times (43% of the 46 games)
2 balls -- 5, 6, 11
3 balls -- 2, 1, 3
4 balls -- 2, 0, 2
5 balls -- 0, 1, 1
6 balls -- 1, 2, 3
7 balls -- 0, 0, 0
8 balls -- 4, 2, 6 (13%)
Average (mean) "out" run -- 2.8 balls
Average (median) "out" run -- 2 balls​

Distribution of lengths of games
Under 10 minutes -- 6 games (13%)
10 - 19 min. -- 9
20 - 29 min. -- 9
30 - 59 min. -- 18
60+ min. -- 4 (longest 76)
Total -- 46​

Match length (including racking and timeouts)
Day 1 -- 6 hours, 50 minutes (approx.)
Day 2 -- 6 hours, 49 min.
Day 3 -- 10 hours, 10 min.
Total -- 23 hours, 49 min.​

Average minutes per game
Day 1 -- 27.3
Day 2 -- 27.3
Day 3 -- 38.1
Total -- 31.1 (approx. 30.2 not counting timeouts)​
 
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bbb

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Thanks for the stats
Don’t know how you can keep track of everything and still enjoy the match
 

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Thanks for the stats, AtLarge....I was curious about the times.
Tony went very conservative...I felt he was trying to wear Bustie out...
...almost worked....Bustie missed a few atypically, he even hit a long safety on the wrong side.

I enjoyed the match though...didn’t go to sleep.
 

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Thanks for the stats, AtLarge....I was curious about the times.
Tony went very conservative...I felt he was trying to wear Bustie out...
...almost worked....Bustie missed a few atypically, he even hit a long safety on the wrong side.

I enjoyed the match though...didn’t go to sleep.

Yes, indeed, to all you said. The match ended at about 4:20 am where I am, and I had to be up at 7 am to meet someone early. So I considered not going to sleep at all but napped for about 2 hours instead. Maybe your way was better.

What a dramatic difference in pace between this match and Tony's match with Filler. The games in this match averaged 3 times as long. Only 1 game went over 30 minutes (33 minutes) in the Filler match whereas nearly half of the games in the Bustamante match were over 30 minutes.

After the Filler match, Tony talked about how he "could have played 1-Pocket" (paraphrasing) instead of his more standard high-risk style. I guess he decided to "play 1-Pocket" this week and he stuck with it.

And it did seem like Bustamante made an awful lot of potting errors -- both late in the match and sometimes early, too. Yet he had the grit to prevail.
 
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AtLarge

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Games lasting under 30 minutes -- Bustamante won 15, Chohan won 9.

Games lasting 30 or more minutes -- Bustamante won 9, Chohan won 13.
 

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Here are some results from the Francisco Bustamante vs. Tony Chohan "Champions Challenge" One-Pocket match played June 16-18, 2020 at Buffalo's Billiards in Jefferson, Louisiana. Pay-per-view live streaming was provided by PoolActionTV.

This match was a 3-day race to 24 games, with play stopping each day when the leader reached multiples of 8. Remote commentary (by phone) was provided by Jeremy Jones. Ray Hansen also commentated each day from the site, and Josh Roberts commented from the site during all or part of 5 games on Day 3. Bustamante won the match 24 - 22.

Conditions -- The conditions for this match included:
  • - Diamond 9-foot table with 4 1/8" corner pockets and worn, blue Simonis cloth;
    - Aramith Tournament balls with a measles cue ball;
    - triangle rack;
    - rack your own with alternating breaks;
    - re-break if a ball is made on the break (occurred once);
    - no shot clock; and
    - lag for opening break on first day (won by Chohan)

Match results, in games (Bustamante's score first)
  • Day 1 -- 7 - 8
    Day 2 -- 9 - 6
    Day 3 -- 8 - 8
    Total -- 24 - 22

Games won by breaker
  • Bustamante -- 11 of 23 (48%)
    Chohan -- 10 of 23 (43%)
    Total -- 21 of 46 (46%)

Breaks by side of table (viewing from head to foot)
  • Bustamante -- Broke from his right 17 times (8 wins, 9 losses) and from his left 6 times (3 wins, 3 losses).
    Chohan -- Broke from his right 2 times (both losses) and from his left 21 times (10 wins, 11 losses).

Games won by player who scored the first point (or had it scored for him) [Note -- Excludes Game 1, as I didn't see the first part of that game.]
  • Bustamante -- 16 of 27 (59%)
    Chohan -- 11 of 18 (61%)
    Total -- 27 of 45 (60%)

Scratches on the break -- Three times (a loss by Bustamante, a win and a loss by Chohan).

Balls made on the break -- Once (by Bustamante, requiring a re-break).

Games in which the player had the lead at some point
  • Bustamante -- 39 games, his 24 wins plus 15 games he lost.
    Chohan -- 34 games, his 22 wins plus 12 games he lost.

Ball counts by length of run -- The total ball counts resulted from the following runs and fouls. Counts are given for Bustamante first, then Chohan, then the total. [Note -- Excludes Game 1, as I didn't see the first part of that game.]
  • 1 ball -- 53 times, 66 times, 119 times
    2 balls -- 23, 24, 47
    3 balls -- 11, 11, 22
    4 balls -- 5, 5, 10
    5 balls -- 3, 3, 6
    6 balls -- 5, 5, 10
    7 balls -- 4, 2, 6
    8 balls -- 4, 2, 6
    Plus balls pocketed by opponent -- 19, 30, 49
    Minus fouls -- 39, 26, 65
    TOTAL ball count -- 237, 246, 483 [Including Game 1, the total ball counts were 245, 252, 497]
    Average game score -- 8 - 3.2 for games won by Bustamante, 8 - 2.4 for games won by Chohan, 8 - 2.8 in total.

Distribution of run-outs to win the games. Counts are given for Bustamante first, then Chohan, then the total.
  • 1 ball -- 10 times, 10 times, 20 times (43% of the 46 games)
    2 balls -- 5, 6, 11
    3 balls -- 2, 1, 3
    4 balls -- 2, 0, 2
    5 balls -- 0, 1, 1
    6 balls -- 1, 2, 3
    7 balls -- 0, 0, 0
    8 balls -- 4, 2, 6 (13%)
    Average (mean) "out" run -- 2.8 balls
    Average (median) "out" run -- 2 balls

Distribution of lengths of games
  • Under 10 minutes -- 6 games (13%)
    10 - 19 min. -- 9
    20 - 29 min. -- 9
    30 - 59 min. -- 18
    60+ min. -- 4 (longest 76)
    Total -- 46

Match length (including racking and timeouts)
  • Day 1 -- 6 hours, 50 minutes (approx.)
    Day 2 -- 6 hours, 49 min.
    Day 3 -- 10 hours, 10 min.
    Total -- 23 hours, 49 min.

Average minutes per game
  • Day 1 -- 27.3
    Day 2 -- 27.3
    Day 3 -- 38.1
    Total -- 31.1 (approx. 30.2 not counting timeouts)

Thank you so much for doing this -- I know it is a lot of work!! And to top it off, you had it out in this finished presentation like the next day -- wow!!
 

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Games won by breaker 46%. Both players under 50%.

Is there really an advantage to the breaker?
 

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Games won by breaker 46%. Both players under 50%.

Is there really an advantage to the breaker?

if you look at AtLarges other threads of stats(thank you for all your efforts AtLarge)
you will find the break is an advantage more often than not
 

lfigueroa

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Games won by breaker 46%. Both players under 50%.

Is there really an advantage to the breaker?


Bradly speaking, the break is an advantage.

But with elite players the advantage decreases because their CB control is so good they can often nullify that advantage. I would theorize that as the level of talent decreases the advantage of the break increases.

Lou Figueroa
 

garczar

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Games won by breaker 46%. Both players under 50%.

Is there really an advantage to the breaker?
Gamble with someone and let them break every game. Let us know how that turns out. If you're about even with your opponent you may not like the outcome. If you're way the favorite its not that big of a deal.
 
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pt109

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Gamble with someone and let them break every game. Let us know how that turns out. If you're about even with your opponent you may not like the outcome. If you're way the favorite its not that big of a deal.

If two APA 4s play 9-ball, and one of them gets the 8, it’s a pretty big spot.
If two players in the top 50 Fargo play the same game, the 8 isn’t worth hardly anything.

I feel that the break at one pocket follows the same pattern...
...the better the players, the less the break is worth.
 

deanoc

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i think the break is a good advantage ,but both of these guys broke poorly
seldom got the cue ball to the 2nd diamond and scratched

the table might have been breaking poorly

i doubt either one would give corey the break or gabe or billy thorpe

my guess is that either player would give his opponent a ball in exchange for the break in spite of this set statistics

my guess
 

AtLarge

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Regarding breaker-won-game percentages in 1-Pkt.

The breaker-won-game percentage fluctuates quite a bit from event to event. Small numbers can produce atypical results. For the pro events I have watched (streamed matches only), it has ranged from 30% (a short race) to 84%.

• For the 12 DCC and Southern Classic events from 2011-2020, the aggregate is 285 wins in 512 games = 56%.

• For the 3 Accu-Stats Make-It-Happen 1-Pkt. events from 2015-2017, 146 of 243 = 60%.

• For 3 1-Pkt. tournaments in 2018, 96 of 164 = 59%

• For 8 challenge matches in 2018-2020, 144 of 283 = 51%

Aggregating all 1,202 of those games from 26 events, the breaker won 56% (671 games), or about 5 wins for every 4 losses.
 
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