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12-05-2019, 09:39 AM

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Of course, I wouldn't use the word "think"...

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I am assuming that you are historically illiterate and can't appreciate that Vladimir Lenin was a Russian Social Democrat. Your history by meme is getting old and making you look very ignorant.

The common denominator is the philosophy of Carl Marx on the far left.

Read some books on what happened in the Soviet Union. The New Deal government of FDR had a love affair with the Soviet Union.

FDR recognized diplomatically the communist government of the Soviet Union after it had engaged in the largest genocide of the early 20th century in the Ukraine.

7-12 million folks in the Ukraine and adjacent areas were murdered by the communist regime.
  
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12-05-2019, 10:12 AM

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No. You don't get to point at a capitalist welfare program and call it socialist. You also don't get to point to a socialist and say that's not us. We are different. That's like the cops finding meth up your butt and saying that's not mine. (A guy in Florida recently did that.)
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12-05-2019, 10:37 AM

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A government's fundamental purpose is to pool the resources of its citizens to provide for their general welfare.
OK, so by "pool", you mean govt forcibly extracts wealth from the productive class and redistributes it to those that did not earn it?
  
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12-05-2019, 11:32 AM

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So the "conservative" ideology is "f**k the poor"...?

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That's where I think the signals are being mixed.

Just because I don't want the gov't involved in how much I spend and whom I spend it on, doesn't mean that there isn't a sense of decency here.

Community used to be what it's all about, and personally I don't want the state dipping their fingers into it.

Case in point would be the Great Society Welfare programs of the 60's. Families no longer dependent on the father in the household. State takes care of that. Sense of community is gone for most, they don't have interest. The interest is in the gov't check.

If you really want a sense of community, get rid of the welfare state, and get Dad's back in family households.

Ironically, the ideology behind what I just described when the gov't tells us where to put money can be summed up to "F**k the poor"
  
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12-05-2019, 12:46 PM

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So the "conservative" ideology is "f**k the poor"...?

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I just pointed out the flaw in your statement and what really exist in reality and not some idealistic view of the world.

There have been and will always be poor people.......that’s the heartlessness of life. Nothing I do will ever end it.

This does not mean I do not support some charities now does it, as you assume.
  
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12-05-2019, 12:58 PM

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7-12 million folks in the Ukraine and adjacent areas were murdered by the communist regime.
No one ever claimed that social justice would be painless...


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12-05-2019, 12:59 PM

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No one ever claimed that social justice would be painless...
That's a good one, I'll have to remember that
  
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12-05-2019, 03:16 PM

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Here's a hint, it's not the dude who works for a living. And it's certainly not the rich dude he built a company that employees thousands of jobs.

I'm sure you're upset when Obama and Bernie keep buying mansions, right?

Dude, get a grip, everything will be OK in 5 more years.


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12-05-2019, 03:19 PM

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I7-12 million folks in the Ukraine and adjacent areas were murdered by the communist regime.
How many thousands raped, shot or killed in big liberals cities, men, woman and children over the last 50 years? And of course, you know the liberals were outraged when this was and is still going on.

Heck, Chicago took a pretty strong stance a few decades ago when they "outlawed" for sale signs in front of your home to keep blacks and other minorities moving into the white liberal hoods. I mean, there is progressiveness and then there "Not in my hood" attitude. The Klan smiled a little when that law went into effect.


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12-05-2019, 03:21 PM

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So the "conservative" ideology is "f**k the poor"...?

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And once again Patricia produces an example of personal ignorance. LOL.

By the way. What exactly is mayor Nuisance and the rest of the liberals in California doing to help the 100,000 or so living and shitting on their city streets?

6th largest economy in the world. Fully armed with liberal ideology and they cant figure out how make their wretched refuse productive citizens.

Perhaps they need more wet err ignorant, unskilled, illiterate illegals flooding their sanctuary cities to to make life better for our unfortunate American citizens living in the streets.


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Well another example Patricia's intellectual limitations. Amazing.


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12-05-2019, 04:10 PM

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And once again Patricia produces an example of personal ignorance. LOL.

By the way. What exactly is mayor Nuisance and the rest of the liberals in California doing to help the 100,000 or so living and shitting on their city streets?

6th largest economy in the world. Fully armed with liberal ideology and they cant figure out how make their wretched refuse productive citizens.

Perhaps they need more wet err ignorant, unskilled, illiterate illegals flooding their sanctuary cities to to make life better for our unfortunate American citizens living in the streets.
To answer your question......

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/12/...-homelessness/

In other words......more wasted taxpayers money.

Plus, there is now community’s hiring private power washers to wash the shit off the streets weekly.

The policies just don’t work and fools that just keep supporting them are assholes.
  
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12-05-2019, 04:16 PM

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The assholes is those that think they have a right to what I earned. A right to what my labor has brought into my life.

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