I have my own ideas about this
but figured I'd better take it to the carom crew for verification
but figured I'd better take it to the carom crew for verification
why do carom/billiards players use a predominately closed bridge?
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I assume you mean for 3-cushion. I think to find the answer you need to look at the game historically including studying the "small" games.
bob, you read my head
by small games, I guess you mean those where little/open bridge hits count?
I definitely meant 3-c tho
dr. dave says
"a closed bridge can help ensure a more-accurate tip contact point and help prevent possible miscues"
but if your cue is forward-balanced
would that still be as true?
and I have a carom cue
never used it coz I don't like the rear balance
is it that way because 3-c players use closed bridges?
I wonder.
I guess, when you're hittin' the heck outta the ball
a closed bridge can help kind of keep the cue in line
but that idea seems to skew more security blanket than practical advantage
unless you count a security blanket as a practical advantage
and if there were no great advantage to using an open bridge
I could see that
personally, I can wallop the ball with an open bridge
but wonder if I don't tighten up on the cue hand sometimes
to compensate for that lack of security
of course any big hit might inspire a tight feeling
then of course there are cue characteristics to consider
maybe a fat butt/taper
and maybe in 3-c aim on the cb doesn't have to be as precise
if coming off at least three rails must occur before scoring?
I feel like I'm slowly answering my own question
and yet I'm as clueless as ever
I'd like to play..I'm going to make an effort in 2020 to find a local slab w/o pockets
that would probably help me understand
thanks for reading/commenting (or not)
No, I meant games like straight rail and balkline where the good players have very specific closed bridges for each situation.
All kinds, in xaviers pdf there are a good 2 pages full of all the kinds of bridges he will use
And Xavier may be the most accomplished technical player alive
And Xavier may be the most accomplished technical player alive
I'd like to check it out, have a link?
I'll have to buy a copy, sounds interesting.
Its available in french and spainsh only atm
We told him to get it in english already but not yet
But that didnt stop me
https://xaviergretillat.com/
Its NOT about 3c in any way
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Where did you get that quote? If I said or wrote that, it was probably a long time ago. Now, I don't think it is very accurate. For more info, see:
open bridge advantages
Regards,
Dave
I think its very accurate
Most of us arent elite cueists
And with the size of the carom balls i beleive , after watching all the elite play these games, like caudron and de brujin xavier etc etc , closed bridge
That you probably just cant be as accurate at the important gather shots with an open bridge
Simple short ones, open all the time
Most of us arent elite cueists
And with the size of the carom balls i beleive , after watching all the elite play these games, like caudron and de brujin xavier etc etc , closed bridge
That you probably just cant be as accurate at the important gather shots with an open bridge
Simple short ones, open all the time
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hi dave
I've used a closed bridge in the past
but am mostly now an open bridge-r
your info. has helped me understand why I like using that technique
that said, I've only seen 3-c players use a closed bridge
and wonder why
re: your quote, I actually think I may have lifted it from elsewhere
but it does exist here:
https://billiards.colostate.edu/bd_articles/2017/aug17.pdf
Ah. Now I see why I didn't recognize my quote ... because you took it out of context. Here it is with the full context:
"Now for people who tend to lift the tip up during a stroke, especially with shots requiring more power, a closed bridge can help ensure a more-accurate tip contact point and help prevent possible miscues. However, tip lift is due to stroke flaws, usually grip tightening and/or elbow drop during the stroke into the ball. So tip lift is a stroke fundamentals issues … not a bridge issue. In my opinion, eliminating the grip or stroke flaws is a better approach than using a closed bridge as a “Band-Aid” to limit bad consequences of poor technique."
Regards,
Dave
I noticed that..
I assure you it wasn't intentional
and I wish I could find the version I originally lifted
nevertheless, I apologize that happened.
and am glad at least *your* memory is up to task
that said, do you have any thoughts on why 3-c players use the closed bridge?
Probably mostly tradition ... it is what they have always done.
Also, it could be that the extreme sidespin (and sometimes power) they use might cause the cue to leave an open bridge after the hit, especially with the heavier balls. This really isn't a problem (unless one of the balls is close), but it might be disconcerting to some people.
Regards,
Dave
thanks dave
both are great points
tradition especially is an intriguing lens by which to observe pool