Hahaha, ok cool a new one! (at least to me, don't get up there too often.) I will check it out. Jake's was quite the hangout for a few characters (as most pool places are.)
UPA is a joke. Stay away. ( rant )
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Hahaha, ok cool a new one! (at least to me, don't get up there too often.) I will check it out. Jake's was quite the hangout for a few characters (as most pool places are.)
This wasn't forgetting to ask about rules we all know regarding the game. This is a one-off quirky situation. They are doing something nobody has ever heard of, they KNOW they are doing something nobody has ever heard of. This is nothing like BIH/kitchen rules.
I play in UPA 8 ball Masters but it's a team league, not singles. Normally, there is 50 points up for grab a night, 10 for each match. The only way for for a possible split points per match where someone doesn't get all 10 points is when the lower rated player looses but wins at least half of the games they are supposed to to win the match. Then the split would be 7-3 instead of 10-0.
Now besides the 50 points per night, there is 10 bonus points per week available for each team. To get all 10 points, all paperwork must be done correctly and signed & dated by each person that shoots plus the captains signing & dating the main scoresheet at the end of play.
A few years back my team got 2 of the ten bonus points taken away because one of my players signed just an X for his name instead of writing out his whole name. Reason he only wrote an X was he had a stroke 3 weeks prior and his writing hand was still numb. Tried to reason with corporate but they didn't seem to care.
I used to love playing in the league but it's turned into complete horseshit lately. The scoring system blows although it was created by a "pro" player. One of my players has been a 5 for the past 4 years, then in a 6 week period he got raised to an 8. 3 sessions later and still no explanation how he went up 3 ratings in 6 weeks after being the same rating for 4 years. Since he got raised to an 8, he has lost 85% of his matches and no signs of him being lowered anytime soon.
Leagues rating system goes from 1-10. Players rated 4-5's run 5 to 6 balls a couple racks per night but never get moved up. It's a shitshow, especially since the UPA takes $3 per person per match out of $10. I feel we can create a better scoring system and not be under any league and run our own better. Plus the prize fund would be better.
How hard can it be, it's a 4 team league in house?
Now besides the 50 points per night, there is 10 bonus points per week available for each team. To get all 10 points, all paperwork must be done correctly and signed & dated by each person that shoots plus the captains signing & dating the main scoresheet at the end of play.
A few years back my team got 2 of the ten bonus points taken away because one of my players signed just an X for his name instead of writing out his whole name. Reason he only wrote an X was he had a stroke 3 weeks prior and his writing hand was still numb. Tried to reason with corporate but they didn't seem to care.
I used to love playing in the league but it's turned into complete horseshit lately. The scoring system blows although it was created by a "pro" player. One of my players has been a 5 for the past 4 years, then in a 6 week period he got raised to an 8. 3 sessions later and still no explanation how he went up 3 ratings in 6 weeks after being the same rating for 4 years. Since he got raised to an 8, he has lost 85% of his matches and no signs of him being lowered anytime soon.
Leagues rating system goes from 1-10. Players rated 4-5's run 5 to 6 balls a couple racks per night but never get moved up. It's a shitshow, especially since the UPA takes $3 per person per match out of $10. I feel we can create a better scoring system and not be under any league and run our own better. Plus the prize fund would be better.
How hard can it be, it's a 4 team league in house?
The problem is setting it up so that the person who does the work will stick around or so there is so little work anyone can do it in a few minutes per month, like maybe the room owner.
I think there are several web-based options. I'd look at the FargoRate League Management System. There are also other on-line league systems that are not pool specific.
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I was on the hill, I broke, ran to the 8 and hung it up really deep in the pocket. His stripe was frozen next to it and all of his balls were on the other side of the table don't remember exactly where but no hangers. I assumed he was gonna play some sort of a lock up safety since the 8 was so deep in the pocket or bank it. I guess he didn't want me kicking. He shoots one of the balls on the other side, goes 3 rails and tries to get between the 8 and the frozen ball. He makes the ball but doesn't get there. He tries again. This time he makes another long tough shot, goes 3 rails through all the traffic, and lands between the 8 and the stripe with just enough angle to move the whitey out of there.He then runs out, takes a break, comes back with a different cue and breaks and runs for the win. I was really pissed and really impressed at the same time.
ha I hear ya..nice one tho, thanks
Wait, UPA is still around? I didn't know they had a league. Is it run by CW/Dragon? Do they make you sign a contract and bar you from playing in other leagues?
Are the rules not published somewhere? A perfectionist would have fact checked what they were told.
So since league rules are in a separate category from game rules you don't need to know what they are? Aren't the league rules published somewhere? No one knows what the league rules are?
Those are questions I can't answer, but they intentionally omitted information..so screw 'em.
All leagues are a joke.
OMG, pool players who are less than honest? I'm shocked, Shocked, SHOCKED, I say.
If you've read any of my posts I scream from the rooftops; expect nothing from pool and you won't be disappointed. You just gotta speak with your dollars, you don't want to be honest? You don't want my money either. Peace out and bad luck to you.
I can https://upatour.com/upa-official-team-guidelines/ https://upatour.com/upa-official-singles-guidelines/
just to make it a little easier for OP
5.0 Bonus Points
Players have an opportunity to receive up to ten (10) Bonus Points per match based on performance in the following areas:
3 points = Courtesy Points/Starting on time
3 points = Accurately/Completely submitting all paperwork
4 points = Membership/Nightly Dues paid in full
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Nah, it is always better to take the word of a couple of pool players than to bother looking up the rules. Perfectionist doesn't mean what the OP thinks it does.
Thanks, I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it in print. :speechless:
Man, I'm guessing you work for UPA or something? I've seen the LO around for over 4 years. I've played both LOs in tourneys over the years. I've chatted with him hundreds of times. Never had beef. I had no reason to believe they would misinform me about the most important and basic part: how one gets points. I asked BOTH LOs multiple times both in person and via texts so as far as I was concerned I was covered and ready to compete. Not sure if you're just trolling or actually trying to make a point. Like others on here have mentioned this was clearly intentional to have an edge over me in case I ended up playing too good. Hence I got the f out of there and warned others. The system is ridiculous and it allowed those with power to abuse it. But yeah, let's blame the fake "perfectionist" for not googling around for the fine print.
man... I feel honored... but the 15 was a few inches higher lol
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I was on the hill, I broke, ran to the 8 and hung it up really deep in the pocket. His stripe was frozen next to it and all of his balls were on the other side of the table don't remember exactly where but no hangers. I assumed he was gonna play some sort of a lock up safety since the 8 was so deep in the pocket or bank it. I guess he didn't want me kicking. He shoots one of the balls on the other side, goes 3 rails and tries to get between the 8 and the frozen ball. He makes the ball but doesn't get there. He tries again. This time he makes another long tough shot, goes 3 rails through all the traffic, and lands between the 8 and the stripe with just enough angle to move the whitey out of there.