Just mho, but...

Michael Andros

tiny balls, GIANT pockets
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Says it far better than I ever could:


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Michael Andros

tiny balls, GIANT pockets
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Playing pool with a woody huh? I used to get that excited about pool, but alas, Im jaded now. :eek:

I still have lead in my pencil, I just dont have anyone to write to. :wink2:


Hey, Mr. Lasiter said it, not me... I just happen to agree! :yeah: :grin:

He was a man wayyyyyy ahead of his time.
 

Michael Andros

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That is downright funny. Did you hear the one about the guy who bought a new Carbon Fiber shaft?

He was all excited to get it.

Then he shot with it and his game didn't improve.

He took some Viagra and his game went soft, you could say he was really let down.

*cough*


Ummmmm...


*cough*


:grin:


:duck:
 

michael4

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I like wood cues myself,

but it should be noted that McEnroe won Wimbledon with a wood racquet, but no longer plays with one, in fact no tennis pros do.

technology is here to stay.
 

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I like wood cues myself,

but it should be noted that McEnroe won Wimbledon with a wood racquet, but no longer plays with one, in fact no tennis pros do.

technology is here to stay.

And cars are still made with metal but guess what? Neither is comparing apples to apples.

A cue transfers energy from the tip downward from impact, a tennis racket takes the energy in a very different manner.

I own a Gibson Les Paul with a curly Maple flame top finish, same guitar has been produced for many decades, never really changed. The sound can't be replicated by any carbon fiber or it would be done. Sound waves traveling thru the wood grain is the same as sound waves traveling down the shaft and into the cue, that is the transfer of energy, when wood grain runs off, so does part of the energy.

Please explain the energy transfer of a tennis racket and how it goes full circle around the strings, I will listen.
 

JazzyJeff87

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Seems like more reason for carbon fiber..since it has no grain to run off, being that it’s produced and not grown and so can be much more consistent. I have been having fun with my old wood shaft playing 1 pocket, just got a hard tip put on it and for whatever reason it makes me excited but still if I’m playing for real I like the man-made machine stuff. Tennis...psh
 

9 Ball Fan

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And cars are still made with metal but guess what? Neither is comparing apples to apples.

A cue transfers energy from the tip downward from impact, a tennis racket takes the energy in a very different manner.

I own a Gibson Les Paul with a curly Maple flame top finish, same guitar has been produced for many decades, never really changed. The sound can't be replicated by any carbon fiber or it would be done. Sound waves traveling thru the wood grain is the same as sound waves traveling down the shaft and into the cue, that is the transfer of energy, when wood grain runs off, so does part of the energy.

Please explain the energy transfer of a tennis racket and how it goes full circle around the strings, I will listen.


Nice guitar. I own a vintage sunburst Epi Les Paul Custom, with a flame maple top; myself. Rock on dude.
 

garczar

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Nice guitar. I own a vintage sunburst Epi Les Paul Custom, with a flame maple top; myself. Rock on dude.
Big difference in solid vs. hollow body guitars. Solid body are basically just a holding device for the pick-ups. The body itself has little to do with the sound. I took a tour of Gibson one time and that's almost verbatim what they told me. Hollow body is a totally different animal 'cause the top and the back flex and can change the sound. I had a friend that made a guitar out of a laminated chopping block and it sounded pretty good. He bought a neck and used old humbuckers. As far as tennis rackets go, i used to play a LOT when i was younger. Composite rackets are lighter, stiffer and when made in mid or jumbo sizes greatly increase the trampoline effect on the strings. Also, the sweet-spot on the larger rackets is waaaaay bigger than on the old smaller ones. Its hard NOT to hit a decent shot with a modern racket.
 
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michael4

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And cars are still made with metal but guess what? Neither is comparing apples to apples.

Please explain the energy transfer of a tennis racket and how it goes full circle around the strings, I will listen.

I'm not qualified to explain the energy transfer of anything, but when maximum performance and consistency is needed (such as cars, golf clubs, tennis racquets, etc) wood has been replaced with newer materials.

(Other than perhaps break cues), Pool cues don't need "maximum power", so no real need to change materials......sorta like a paint brush, wood handles are fine, no need to be carbon fiber......
 

JolietJames

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[/QUOTE] like a paint brush, wood handles are fine, no need to be carbon fiber......[/QUOTE]

Great example. 10 internet points for you sir.



The tennis racquet comparison is ineffective considering that the new materials entered the game at the same time as a drastic increase in racquet head size.
Combined, they increased both power and the size of the sweet spot.
 

Michael Andros

tiny balls, GIANT pockets
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Nice guitar. I own a vintage sunburst Epi Les Paul Custom, with a flame maple top; myself. Rock on dude.

I own a Martin DM12 and a Martin DX1AE. And a few others as well... My kid has all the electrics, but no Gibsons. He got a Jackson Dinky and a couple Ibanez ( a solid and a hollow-bod ) and a Gretch 12 string. Plus we got a Fender mandolin and a SAWEEET 1955 Martin Uke.


Music ROCKS.
 

Michael Andros

tiny balls, GIANT pockets
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Big difference in solid vs. hollow body guitars. Solid body are basically just a holding device for the pick-ups. The body itself has little to do with the sound. I took a tour of Gibson one time and that's almost verbatim what they told me. Hollow body is a totally different animal 'cause the top and the back flex and can change the sound. I had a friend that made a guitar out of a laminated chopping block and it sounded pretty good. He bought a neck and used old humbuckers. As far as tennis rackets go, i used to play a LOT when i was younger. Composite rackets are lighter, stiffer and when made in mid or jumbo sizes greatly increase the trampoline effect on the strings. Also, the sweet-spot on the larger rackets is waaaaay bigger than on the old smaller ones. Its hard NOT to hit a decent shot with a modern racket.

I'd like to take a tour of the Martin factory & museum in Nazareth. I've done the virtual tours on YouTube lots of times but man, would I like to actually walk them both.


And speaking of music and reminiscing a bit, I'll throw these out for anyone who might remember:

Nov. 28, 29 & 30 1969 Palm Beach International Pop Festival. Was There.
July 3,4 & 5, 1970 2nd Atlanta International Pop Festival ( Byron Ga ) Was There
June 21, 22 & 23 1971 Celebration of Life Pop Festival ( McCrea La. ) Was There

Ah, memories... last time I turned around, I was 15 years old.
 

michael4

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like a paint brush, wood handles are fine, no need to be carbon fiber......[/QUOTE]

Great example. 10 internet points for you sir.

The tennis racquet comparison is ineffective considering that the new materials entered the game at the same time as a drastic increase in racquet head size.
[/QUOTE]

I know a paint brush is a crappy example, but I was trying to say the harder you swing (golf tennis) the more modern materials have an advantage over wood.....the more you use touch and feel (like an artist?) wood still has a place and perhaps an advantage... I consider Efren to be an artist with a cue :grin-square:
 

Michael Andros

tiny balls, GIANT pockets
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like a paint brush, wood handles are fine, no need to be carbon fiber......

Great example. 10 internet points for you sir.

The tennis racquet comparison is ineffective considering that the new materials entered the game at the same time as a drastic increase in racquet head size.
[/QUOTE]

I know a paint brush is a crappy example, but I was trying to say the harder you swing (golf tennis) the more modern materials have an advantage over wood.....the more you use touch and feel (like an artist?) wood still has a place and perhaps an advantage... I consider Efren to be an artist with a cue :grin-square:[/QUOTE]


And Efren plays with a WOODIE! And so should everyone else! :grin:
 
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