Sly / harris

ChicagoRJ said:

Me thinks you're whining about $3 a gallon premium gas, when you should be saying thank you lol

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jasonlaus said:

Being in NY I'm still waiting for it. Someday, maybe
Jason

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rjb1168 said:

New cue out there called Harri-sly.

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ShootingArts said:

Yeah, I suspect I would be the same. I would like to drive a sprint car one more time, or a top of the line late model on dirt. I don't know the horsepower they claim now, up around a thousand or so in a 1400 to 2200 pound car. Drive that thing head on towards a steel or concrete wall and then a twitch of the steering wheel gets it sideways and you hope the engine doesn't hick-up because the back tires pointing towards the wall are what makes it turn. In my head and heart I think I could drive a couple dozen laps and be only a few seconds off of the pace. In reality I doubt I could run a car wide open looking at a wall coming my way. Several friends first trying dirt cars had major crashes. I asked what happened. "I don't know, I think I forgot to turn." That would probably be me today. I'd still strap in if I got a chance.

My brother was in the army when I got into dirt tracking. He came home and since he had never driven on dirt I sat him in my late model and gave careful instructions, "Go down there and take a left. Come back this way and take another left." I didn't mention that the car's natural set-up was to turn left and you had to be turning slightly right to make it go straight. First three times he hit the throttle he spun out.

Hu

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jay helfert said:

None of this surprises me. Every young stud with a fast car thinks he could drive a race car. They have no idea! It took a lot of getting used to, getting around Riverside Raceway in one piece, and some guys didn't. Turn nine was a long sweeping high banked right-hander, coming off the long back straightaway (like a NASCAR turn, except right instead of left). We would run down there at about 175 and hit the brakes maybe a hundred yards out and take the turn at 110 or so. The hard part was coming out of the turn into the front straight. Your equilibrium would be all screwed up and many guys drifted left into the wall. I know I came within a foot or two of bumping it myself and I was a cautious driver.

There was a great young driver named Swede Savage who was running Formula 5000 and Can-Am cars (the biggest and the fastest) who didn't make it and crashed pretty hard into the wall entering the front straight. So hard that he cracked his helmet when his head hit the wall. He got out of his car and walked around surveying the damage. After a minute or two he began to feel weak and sat down on the side of the track. They took him to the track hospital where he passed away from a brain aneurysm. Racing is a dangerous game.

And you know about my brother. :frown:

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PRED said:

I seem to remember Swede Savage dying after a wreck in the Indy 500, not Riverside.[/QUOTE

You might be right. My memory is a little foggy there. We did race with him at Riverside a few times. The A and B Production cars ran at the same time as the Can-Am cars. We just stayed out of there way. I do remember him hit the wall there and get hurt, but it may not have been his fatal crash. That could well have been at Indy.

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ShootingHank said:

Any idea which are the Harris? Which are the Sly cues?

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ideologist said:

Sure, here is Bigfoot admitting to accepting cues from someone else. I wonder if he will sue himself. I wanted to join his Facebook group and he actively blocked me, so I guess he does not want to talk about it.

The truly sad part is that the falling out was over $300.

Rob certainly has issues, but Leon definitely paid him to build full cues, and not just "five Q's" - I will work on getting the photos we have of cues laying in the Harris shop, ready to send out for finish. I don't know about which individual cues we're done, but it is a fact that there are Harris cues with a Sly logo on them. Not plain janes, either...

A friend of mine also saw these, to the point of noticing one of these cues for sale at a dealer's table at SBE, and asked if it was a Rob Harris. The dealer, naturally, turned up his nose and said it was the cue of another maker. Odd, since we saw that cue 60 days prior with no finish on it at the Harris shop.

I think there is another maker who took the same service from Rob. Easy enough to pass this off, as Rob wrote many CNC programs for other cuemakers anyway.

If you are familiar with "cuemaker time" and how that works, you can imagine what "five" really means.

If you bought a Sly in the last 24 months, you should really get in writing that he built it for you. He's already dodged answering the question publicly, but a denial will help you if you want a refund and go to court about it

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Buster8001 said:

It's a shame Leon made more money selling Harris' cues than Harris did.
Harris made nice cues, honestly.
I'll never own a Sly.

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