CSI-Mark Griffin First Response

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Mark Griffin

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I realize many would have liked an earlier response to the 'situation' - however we had a very large tournament to run. Today, our office is 'almost' up and running again - I personally had over 700 emails and a huge stack of mail.

The plan is:

A written press release will be submitted (hopefully by tomorrow) explaining the conditions of the invitational - what occurred with the withdrawal of Ralf Souquet - and the reasoning behind the course of action we took. We will be reporting facts – not opinions.

In addition, we will be the guests on the American Billiard Radio (Thursday 9 PM Central Time) broadcast for this week. At that time, we will address some of the misinformation (and assumptions) that are being spread on the multitude of threads on this topic.

I might add that in some ways, I am glad that we did not spend our limited resources on addressing some of the comments made. To be honest, this extra time allowed several posters to remove all doubt of their intentions. I am a very open and patient person. I feel I go above and beyond to have my actions transparent. No one should be subjected to the personal assaults that some of the posters have spewed on this topic. Because you disagree with our decision, you try to create the impression of wrong doing. It is people and thoughts like yours that hurt our industry more than anything else. Can we disagree? Absolutely! Do I expect to be treated with respect? Absolutely! It is quite apparent several people cannot wrap their head around differing opinions.


Also, please DO NOT think that my silence on this topic has been a sign of weakness or ‘concocting a story’ – it had to do with finishing up a very large event. I stated it would be a couple of days – and guess what – I actually did what I said I would do.!!!!

Hindsight can be 20/20. We made a decision. We will explain why we made the decision. We stand by the decision. In the process, we did make an error and corrective measures are in motion. We will own up to that – but I don’t expect it to make any difference to the haters. It is beyond my comprehension to understand what drives these people. Do we make mistakes – yes. I guess we should do nothing and the possibility of future mistakes would be eliminated.

For those that care (and I know there are many), CSI is planning to continue this (or a very similar) format. We now have a precedent in place if this type of unprofessional behavior occurs again. I want everyone to know – that although I do try to appease pool fans and players – I also realize that there are some that are miserable in their lives and just want me to be miserable too. Ain’t gonna happen!! The only thing that is going to happen is that I am going to call out the critics and engage them in a discussion.

Please be patient and civil as this process unfolds.

As usual, if you have anything you want to say, I am easy to find. If you want to discuss this further, call me. I will not talk with aliases or anonymous people.

Mark Griffin
702-719-7665
markg@playcsipool.com
 

PINKLADY

ICNBB
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I realize many would have liked an earlier response to the 'situation' - however we had a very large tournament to run. Today, our office is 'almost' up and running again - I personally had over 700 emails and a huge stack of mail.

The plan is:

A written press release will be submitted (hopefully by tomorrow) explaining the conditions of the invitational - what occurred with the withdrawal of Ralf Souquet - and the reasoning behind the course of action we took. We will be reporting facts – not opinions.

In addition, we will be the guests on the American Billiard Radio (Thursday 9 PM Central Time) broadcast for this week. At that time, we will address some of the misinformation (and assumptions) that are being spread on the multitude of threads on this topic.

I might add that in some ways, I am glad that we did not spend our limited resources on addressing some of the comments made. To be honest, this extra time allowed several posters to remove all doubt of their intentions. I am a very open and patient person. I feel I go above and beyond to have my actions transparent. No one should be subjected to the personal assaults that some of the posters have spewed on this topic. Because you disagree with our decision, you try to create the impression of wrong doing. It is people and thoughts like yours that hurt our industry more than anything else. Can we disagree? Absolutely! Do I expect to be treated with respect? Absolutely! It is quite apparent several people cannot wrap their head around differing opinions.


Also, please DO NOT think that my silence on this topic has been a sign of weakness or ‘concocting a story’ – it had to do with finishing up a very large event. I stated it would be a couple of days – and guess what – I actually did what I said I would do.!!!!

Hindsight can be 20/20. We made a decision. We will explain why we made the decision. We stand by the decision. In the process, we did make an error and corrective measures are in motion. We will own up to that – but I don’t expect it to make any difference to the haters. It is beyond my comprehension to understand what drives these people. Do we make mistakes – yes. I guess we should do nothing and the possibility of future mistakes would be eliminated.

For those that care (and I know there are many), CSI is planning to continue this (or a very similar) format. We now have a precedent in place if this type of unprofessional behavior occurs again. I want everyone to know – that although I do try to appease pool fans and players – I also realize that there are some that are miserable in their lives and just want me to be miserable too. Ain’t gonna happen!! The only thing that is going to happen is that I am going to call out the critics and engage them in a discussion.

Please be patient and civil as this process unfolds.

As usual, if you have anything you want to say, I am easy to find. If you want to discuss this further, call me. I will not talk with aliases or anonymous people.

Mark Griffin
702-719-7665
markg@playcsipool.com


thank you.
 

cleary

Honestly, I'm a liar.
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Mark, the reality is... It doesn't matter what people think. You do a great service to our community. Is it perfect, nope. Do we appreciate it? Yes. We all have opinions and some of them are very valid but end of the day this is your baby to do with however you wish.

Most people don't know how much work is Invovled. You and the rest are scooting around the casino non stop for two weeks, I was lucky to catch you a few times. We've talked about how I feel your events can be better and I still have more to say, but end of the day it's yours to mold as you please.
 

LuckyStroke

Full Splic Addict
Silver Member
Thank you, and not just for the response. For putting on a high profile tournament and making it available for me to watch. For me, that's a big deal. So thanks again.

Ben
 

sjm

Older and Wiser
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As disappointing as this incident was, the focus should be on the future. CSI may feel compelled to defend it's decision, but I'd suggest that it is unnecessary.

If CSI's statement announces that rules will be written, adopted, and communicated to ensure that this sort of situation will be handled in a different manner going forward, that should satisfy all of us.

Whatever CSI says, however, there can be no denying that CSI was victimized by Ralf Souquet, who, quite frankly, should not have even participated in this event, given that he knew long before the event began that he would be unavailable for the later rounds.

I predict that when the smoke clears, CSI will, once again, demonstrate its commitment to the continual improvement of its already outstanding pro pool product.
 

Black-Balled

AzB Silver Member
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Well said, sjm.

I am personally offended any time I hear mark's commitment questioned or attacked.
 

BRussell

AzB Silver Member
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Whatever CSI says, however, there can be no denying that CSI was victimized by Ralf Souquet, who, quite frankly, should not have even participated in this event, given that he knew long before the event began that he would be unavailable for the later rounds.
Because Ralph is such a well-respected and well-liked individual (as far as I know), I hope that there is an innocent explanation for his forfeit. Like maybe he didn't realize the conflict between the flight and the match until the last minute. But from hints in Mark's post it doesn't sound like it.
 

watchez

What time is it?
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Stu - by your statement of "ensure that this sort of situation will be handled in a different manner going forward, that should satisfy all of us" you make the assumption incorrectly that the majority of the people think that CSI made the wrong decision. The 20 people you talked to in Vega$ and 19 people here now that the dust has settled feel that CSI handled the situation incorrectly.

Beyond that, it is a non issue that is paramount to some people wanting to argue which came first, the chicken or the egg. And they will argue it in a manner that is disrespectful, unfactual and with complete intent of malice. All the while hiding behind an internet fence afraid to state their true identity.

It was a great event that I can only imagine the time and energy it took to organize 16 international players to commit to attend. Add to it the streaming crew, announcers, referees and setup personnel. I am happy to read that Mark G. has not lost his passion for it to continue next year. (BTW - Mark told me that he got to enjoy I believe less than 3 matches of the entire event). It is shocking that Ralf took such a blasé attitude towards the efforts of CSI and his action was easily avoidable.
 

justadub

Rattling corners nightly
Silver Member
Rock on, Mark.

You are what's right with pool in the US today.

I look forward to hearing your explanation, so that the facts will be out there for all, and to stem this foolishness, if only a little.

Keep on keeping on, Mark. You are appreciated far more than the few disonant voices who make up the majority of the noise here.
 

Celtic

AZB's own 8-ball jihadist
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The 20 people you talked to in Vega$ and 19 people here now that the dust has settled feel that CSI handled the situation incorrectly.

Dude, are you "seriously" putting stock in your BS poll with its loaded BS second choice? I mean you actually really think is has any semblance of actual validity with the stupid way you decided to present it?
 

buckshotshoey

AzB Silver Member
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Stu - by your statement of "ensure that this sort of situation will be handled in a different manner going forward, that should satisfy all of us" you make the assumption incorrectly that the majority of the people think that CSI made the wrong decision./QUOTE]

I fully agree with this statement. Mark was in a tough spot. And he probably had a consensus of the top people running the tournament. If this needs to be added to the tournament rule book, then so be it. At least EVERYONE will be on the same page.

Thank you Mark for your support of pool.
 

watchez

What time is it?
Silver Member
Dude, are you "seriously" putting stock in your BS poll with its loaded BS second choice? I mean you actually really think is has any semblance of actual validity with the stupid way you decided to present it?

Let's translate -- if the people voting weren't smart enough to vote in the correct way (meaning possibly how you or others perceived what would be the outcome of a vote and now many aren't happy with the results) just because I put a sophomoric twist to the choices, then do you really think they have a grasp of what is or is not an intelligent way to resolve the issue that Mark G. had to deal with.

Long live ice cream with sprinkles.
 

8ballEinstein

AzB Silver Member
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... We will be reporting facts – not opinions.
...

Facts? WE CAN"T HANDLE THE FACTS!

We survive on speculation and innuendo.

Overall, my team and I had a wonderful and memorable time in Las Vegas. We look forward to doing it all over again. Thanks for all your hard work, Mark.
 

poolhustler

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Facts? WE CAN"T HANDLE THE FACTS!

We survive on speculation and innuendo.

Overall, my team and I had a wonderful and memorable time in Las Vegas. We look forward to doing it all over again. Thanks for all your hard work, Mark.

hey bro...... can I get 9-6 for some $10 one pocket? :D
 

Celtic

AZB's own 8-ball jihadist
Silver Member
Let's translate -- if the people voting weren't smart enough to vote in the correct way (meaning possibly how you or others perceived what would be the outcome of a vote and now many aren't happy with the results) just because I put a sophomoric twist to the choices, then do you really think they have a grasp of what is or is not an intelligent way to resolve the issue that Mark G. had to deal with.

Long live ice cream with sprinkles.

You wrote the poll in a stupid fashion on purpose to sound funny and thus negated any validity it might have had.

That is a simple fact. You tried to be amusing, and you might have succeeded for some. But now trying to take your poll as if it actually has value and use the votes as if they have actual meaning is simply dumb.

The original poll was actually not wrote out in a biased fashion, it had two simple choices, and it is FAR more valid then yours due to the way you chose to write it. That is the simple reality.

I don't care that you made a stupid little poll that was meant to be amusing. What I find sad is that you are actually now trying to use it as if it represents anything legit. Get real...
 
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sjm

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Stu - by your statement of "ensure that this sort of situation will be handled in a different manner going forward, that should satisfy all of us" you make the assumption incorrectly that the majority of the people think that CSI made the wrong decision.

Not what I'm saying. What I'm referring to is that rules will be established to handle a situation like this and such rules will be explicitly communicated. What those rules should be is not my concern. What I'm saying is that announcing all the rules governing forfeits/withdrawals/no shows in the player's meeting will constitute "handling things in a different manner going forward." I'm optimistic that this is where we are heading.
 

leto1776

AzB Silver Member
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Some people seemed to want answers right away. The reality is, compared to everything going on in the Rio the past two weeks, one pro event meant very little. Mark and all of the staff at CSI had bigger-and arguable- more important things to do regarding the BCAPL nats. I don't blame him for taking a while to talk about one pro event. Fact is, hundreds of players in the BCAPL trumps a few pro players.
 

wrickyb

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Silver Member
Bravo Mark! Great Job and Great Event! You know you can never please all the people and Pool has the most wine'oes - there are some that are not happy if they are not whining :)

Ricky Bryant
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