How big of a "pool sin" did I commit???

lowgear

Registered
Local Friday night 8-ball tournament. $10 entry and small $ calcutta.

I'm in the hot seat waiting to face the winner of B side.
It's my cousin who hardly ever plays pool anymore and it's his first time
to play in this tournament. His opponent is Tyrone, a regular in the tourney
and a league player as well. He is the biggest whiner I've ever seen in my
life. Always moaning about something or other. We have a "no safety" rule.
In other words you can't play an obvious safety. Anytime you leave Tyrone
no shot he gripes that you did so on purpose!!!!

Anyway, it gets down to the last 3 for my cousin. I'm sitting right next to the
table, Tyrone is 10 feet away at the corner of the bar. My cousin sinks the
last two and gets straight in on the 8. He's a foot away from the 8 which is
a foot away from the corner pocket. He gets over it to shoot and I holler at
him "call the pocket". My cousin points at the hole and makes the ball.
Tyrone comes over and bows up at me and raises holy hell. He did wait
briefly until my cousin MADE the shot.

I DID feel very guilty. I know better and have never done anything like this
before. But I KNEW that Tyrone was the ONE guy in the tournament who
would have called him on it and told him he lost the game. And I told him so.
It was a heated moment and a lot of trash was talked. Him talking "rules"
and that a "no call" would have been a loss. Me telling him he would be
the only person in the tournament chickenshit enough to call it on someone
on such an obvious shot and he'd be the only one to want to win that way.

But I felt I was still in the wrong to do it and offered to give up my place,
take third, and let the two battle it out for first (although the guy who bought
me in the calcutta didn't like this option). In fact, the guy who bought me was
running the tournament. He knows what a sore loser Tyrone is and said
don't worry about it. My cousin was a new player and didn't know the rules.
But as soon as I made the offer Tyrone unscrewed and said "F..k y'all, give
me third place and I'm never coming back!!!!" And then he stormed out.

I KNOW I was in the wrong....but HOW wrong was I ????
 

Quesports

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Family first. The rest is just pool hall drama..... To win the way Tyrone (may have) is not a win anyway....
 

iusedtoberich

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Yes, never, ever, interfere in another person's game unless you are asked for a call or a ruling, etc. This also includes giving your opinion to a player in a gambling match. That is knocking, and the lowest thing you can possibly do in a pool room. Even lower than dumping. IMO.

That said, Tyrone will be back next week. And all pool players are crybabies. None of these guys are serious players if they are playing honest john 8 ball.
 

TX Poolnut

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I keep my mouth shut and stay out of other people's business, especially where money is involved.

What did Tyrone's calcutta buyer do?
 

RiverCity

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Local Friday night 8-ball tournament. $10 entry and small $ calcutta.

I'm in the hot seat waiting to face the winner of B side.
It's my cousin who hardly ever plays pool anymore and it's his first time
to play in this tournament. His opponent is Tyrone, a regular in the tourney
and a league player as well. He is the biggest whiner I've ever seen in my
life. Always moaning about something or other. We have a "no safety" rule.
In other words you can't play an obvious safety. Anytime you leave Tyrone
no shot he gripes that you did so on purpose!!!!

Anyway, it gets down to the last 3 for my cousin. I'm sitting right next to the
table, Tyrone is 10 feet away at the corner of the bar. My cousin sinks the
last two and gets straight in on the 8. He's a foot away from the 8 which is
a foot away from the corner pocket. He gets over it to shoot and I holler at
him "call the pocket". My cousin points at the hole and makes the ball.
Tyrone comes over and bows up at me and raises holy hell. He did wait
briefly until my cousin MADE the shot.

I DID feel very guilty. I know better and have never done anything like this
before. But I KNEW that Tyrone was the ONE guy in the tournament who
would have called him on it and told him he lost the game. And I told him so.
It was a heated moment and a lot of trash was talked. Him talking "rules"
and that a "no call" would have been a loss. Me telling him he would be
the only person in the tournament chickenshit enough to call it on someone
on such an obvious shot and he'd be the only one to want to win that way.

But I felt I was still in the wrong to do it and offered to give up my place,
take third, and let the two battle it out for first (although the guy who bought
me in the calcutta didn't like this option). In fact, the guy who bought me was
running the tournament. He knows what a sore loser Tyrone is and said
don't worry about it. My cousin was a new player and didn't know the rules.
But as soon as I made the offer Tyrone unscrewed and said "F..k y'all, give
me third place and I'm never coming back!!!!" And then he stormed out.

I KNOW I was in the wrong....but HOW wrong was I ????

If he stays gone, you did everyone a favor. That is about as right as rain. :thumbup:
 

MattPoland

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
It’s funny to me because I’ve been a “rules monger” for years. I’d play by the letter of the book. It took me longer than it should have to realize that some rules are made to punish someone trying to abuse the game, not punish those playing in good faith that didn’t honor the letter of the book.

I definitely think you shouldn’t have interfered. Tyrone may have called foul but the tournament director should overrule him if he has any real integrity. That’s a sticky situation. But it should be a sticky situation between the TD, Tyrone and your cousin. No additional parties should inject themselves into the outcome unless invited.

But I respect where you where coming from.


Respectfully, Matt
(I don’t take myself too seriously. I hope you can return the favor.)
 

lowgear

Registered
Thanks everyone for the comments.. As I said I KNOW i was wrong in interfering
in the match. It's possible the guy would have given him the game anyway, but
NOT likely. It's just a small regular weekly tournament in a small bar in a small
town with the same 12-20 amateur players every week. It happened in a split
second,I blurted it out and immediately regretted it. But what was done was done
and I couldn't undo it. I offered to forfeit my share of the pot. I don't know what more
I could have done. As bad as it is going to hurt I guess I at least owe Tyrone an
apology. We've had HUGE spats before and he always gets over it.

I appreciate all the reassuring comments, as well as the negative ones.
I assumed I would get a fair amount of slamming but never thought I'd be
accused of not knowing how to spell "rules".
 

garczar

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Local Friday night 8-ball tournament. $10 entry and small $ calcutta.

I'm in the hot seat waiting to face the winner of B side.
It's my cousin who hardly ever plays pool anymore and it's his first time
to play in this tournament. His opponent is Tyrone, a regular in the tourney
and a league player as well. He is the biggest whiner I've ever seen in my
life. Always moaning about something or other. We have a "no safety" rule.
In other words you can't play an obvious safety. Anytime you leave Tyrone
no shot he gripes that you did so on purpose!!!!

Anyway, it gets down to the last 3 for my cousin. I'm sitting right next to the
table, Tyrone is 10 feet away at the corner of the bar. My cousin sinks the
last two and gets straight in on the 8. He's a foot away from the 8 which is
a foot away from the corner pocket. He gets over it to shoot and I holler at
him "call the pocket". My cousin points at the hole and makes the ball.
Tyrone comes over and bows up at me and raises holy hell. He did wait
briefly until my cousin MADE the shot.

I DID feel very guilty. I know better and have never done anything like this
before. But I KNEW that Tyrone was the ONE guy in the tournament who
would have called him on it and told him he lost the game. And I told him so.
It was a heated moment and a lot of trash was talked. Him talking "rules"
and that a "no call" would have been a loss. Me telling him he would be
the only person in the tournament chickenshit enough to call it on someone
on such an obvious shot and he'd be the only one to want to win that way.

But I felt I was still in the wrong to do it and offered to give up my place,
take third, and let the two battle it out for first (although the guy who bought
me in the calcutta didn't like this option). In fact, the guy who bought me was
running the tournament. He knows what a sore loser Tyrone is and said
don't worry about it. My cousin was a new player and didn't know the rules.
But as soon as I made the offer Tyrone unscrewed and said "F..k y'all, give
me third place and I'm never coming back!!!!" And then he stormed out.

I KNOW I was in the wrong....but HOW wrong was I ????
You dogg'd it. Stay OUT of other people's s^*t. Period. You're not in church and i'm assuming your cousin had on his big-boy pants.
 

ChrisinNC

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Guy sounded like a jerk, but it is not your place to get involved in the match. If he'd made the shot and not called it, the jerk could have called him on the technicality, and it would have been up to the TD to make the ruling. Either way, your cousin needs to learn, even if it's the hard way and costs him the match against the jerk.
 
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