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11-14-2019, 01:16 PM

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I'll go a step further. If you can identify a womens pool league that has been dominated by transgender players for years as you say, then post the information here with specifics. Include a new poll with two options.

(1) What I originally claimed is substantially true
(2) What I originally claimed is substantially untrue

If option (1) wins after being up here for 24 hours, I'll apologize publicly and send you $100.
Of course the truth is not being told. The op isn't even a woman.

And if I'm proven wrong, I will not apologize nor pay. Because I won't be.


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11-14-2019, 01:17 PM

Your post does not warrant a reply. You only spread evil and I will not be a part of your bulling!

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11-14-2019, 01:28 PM

Just call it a biological ladies tournament....keep a file of birth certificates...everyone has one.


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11-14-2019, 01:31 PM

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But you replied. Why wont you disclose the info Mike from Fargo asked you about?

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11-14-2019, 01:56 PM

There was a scenario in Vegas at the APA world championships a few years ago, a team had an old man who identified as a woman on their team. It would have been much simpler if the league owner had let the APA know beforehand, but they didn't. What resulted was before the match the teams checked each other's ID's and someone noticed Norma Parks was actually Norman Parks. She ended up being kicked out of the tournament. I have no idea if any litigation resulted, if anyone does know what ended up happening please let me know.

So I looked more into it and from what I read the only way around this is to host an "Invitational" meaning only invited players can play. If you hold an open tournament for men with no female equivalent then women can play in it. But with an invitational you decide who plays. Maybe you can use that info in some way.

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11-14-2019, 02:07 PM

Here is a link to the thread I posted on the Norma Parks/APA scenario. Jeez I think it was over 20 pages long.

https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=433307
  
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11-14-2019, 02:15 PM

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11-14-2019, 02:26 PM

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Sounds like Mike is right then, if you're not willing to offer any proof that your allegations have even a scintilla of truth to them.
  
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11-14-2019, 02:33 PM

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Every woman on the league who is opposed should just stop playing if the LO isn't willing to make it right
This.

No league can continue on with only one team.

Seems simple. If it was that egregious I dont see how
this would go on for "years and years"

Your story has a very strong smell of bullshit.

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11-14-2019, 02:36 PM

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Your post does not warrant a reply. You only spread evil and I will not be a part of your bulling!
As if you're fooling anyone here with your agenda complete with web site link.

If you have a trans fetish there's places you can go to meet them.


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11-14-2019, 02:40 PM

My wife was talking to me and I may having accidentally hit yes.....instead of NO.

I do not agree with it.....not in the least.

There are only two genders of the human race.....Male and Female.

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I knew a fellow that thought he was a good boxer because he was in a position to befriend a lot of "professional boxers". It cost him azzwhippens till he realized he wasn't what he thought/wished he was.

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11-14-2019, 02:50 PM

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11-14-2019, 02:56 PM

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11-14-2019, 03:44 PM

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Just call it a biological ladies tournament....keep a file of birth certificates...everyone has one.
I wish it were that simple. Title VII had the word "gender' attached years ago so that isn't an option until the laws change.. So Get out and Vote so the rules will be changed!



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WOW! What a topic, seems straight forward and in my opinion I think that this is WRONG. Interested to see what other people think??

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I see a simple solution. Establish fair handicaps. There are lots of such handicapping systems and you don't need to join a national organization to do it -- it can be all independent or in-house. No lawyers involved.
I wish they would do the handicap system as well. The league in question is very old fashioned....even the rules...such as breaking from kitchen....what is made on the break is what you are stuck with..etc. There used to be 18 teams..which has been reduced to 7 currently, and another 3 teams stating they will be out the door next year. I am actually thinking of starting my own women's league in the area and running it correctly, perhaps even "invitational" as one person posted...Thanks for idea..

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There was a scenario in Vegas at the APA ... She ended up being kicked out of the tournament.. But with an invitational you decide who plays. Maybe you can use that info in some way.

Good luck, Ben
...Thank you Ben...very good idea. Hope to use it next year. Wonder what happened in Vegas...

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11-14-2019, 04:04 PM

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Only asking, do you think woman inherently don't play as well as males? If so can you say why?
There's been lots of discussion about that here, and the most likely explanation is that there are just lots fewer women interested in pool, so there will naturally be fewer top players.

I think it's also possible that there are innate physical differences that apply to pool - pool is a semi athletic game and men have evolved for that kind of thing.

I support gender choice, but I think it's legitimate to question the fairness of trans women competing in women-only competition (and vice versa) - whether physical advantage means enough in pool to matter is another question.

Next questions: Should trans women (biologically male) be allowed in men-only competition? How about trans men (biologically female)?

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