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04-28-2008, 05:33 AM

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Totally different experence.
Can you elaborate on that? Of course it is a different experience, but what makes it unsafe? I would argue that riding a bus across the country today would be safer than in the past.
  
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04-28-2008, 06:41 AM

This thread brings back lots of memories, some good and some bad, but mostly all good. It is funny how the mind works (mine anyways) and pushes all of the bad to the back and mostly what you remember is the good stuff.

One thing that I remember and miss is the "One Room School House", that had K-8 all in one room.
I was the best in my class for 4 years running, K, 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Three of those years I was the only one in the class!

Midway through 3rd grade we moved to the city where the school had 2 rooms full of 3rd graders, what a shock that was to this young boy.

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04-28-2008, 06:52 AM

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Can you elaborate on that? Of course it is a different experience, but what makes it unsafe? I would argue that riding a bus across the country today would be safer than in the past.
Sorry for you as can not live in the 50's or 60's, it was a different experence, you would have to experence personally to understand.


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04-28-2008, 06:55 AM

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What's unsafe about riding the bus cross country now? People do it all the time. I am not making fun of you, I just really want to know what you think is so unsafe about the bus.

Easy, I did it a few years back, Clarksburg, WV, to Colfax, California.

Two uneasy moments.

I got into downtown Cleveland at 3 A.M.
No real passengers to speak of.
Nothing but cranksters looking to rob someone.

Also, downtown Omaha.
We were told that gangs were riding around doing drive-by shootings and it might be wise to stay in the station. I did.
  
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04-28-2008, 07:00 AM

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This thread brings back lots of memories, some good and some bad, but mostly all good. It is funny how the mind works (mine anyways) and pushes all of the bad to the back and mostly what you remember is the good stuff.

One thing that I remember and miss is the "One Room School House", that had K-8 all in one room.
I was the best in my class for 4 years running, K, 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Three of those years I was the only one in the class!

Midway through 3rd grade we moved to the city where the school had 2 rooms full of 3rd graders, what a shock that was to this young boy.

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I attended two different one-room school houses. The first was just Kindergarten, first and second grade. The second was third and fourth graders. My older sister went to another one that was for fifth and sixth graders.

I made it through the fourth grade before the city school was built.

I often think of the low costs to really educate us. No computers, lockers, or any of that. Just a phone ( a really big technology), a water jug, and an outhouse or two (the girls used the one attached to the school, the boys had to trek 50 yards to theirs (can you say freeze you azz off in January?)

I've got a four inch scar on my right arm from the time I got hung up on a sharp, broken tree limb and it literally ripped open my arm and pulled the skin and fat away from it like skinning an animal. It was so cool looking inside my arm and seeing all the parts. Better than any textbook on anatomy! Fun until they used a scrub brush to remove the sap (cuz it was a pine tree) from my wound. Now that hurt!

I used to walk there----up hill, both ways....seriously. There was a big valley between our house and the school. Walking home through the pastures and playing were some of the best times ever....even in snowstorms. 'Cept for that time I fell crossing a barbed-wire fence and scraped my chest along a bunch of barbs...damn! that school was a fuggin' dangerous deal...now kids just worry about getting shot.

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04-28-2008, 07:04 AM

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Sorry for you as can not live in the 50's or 60's, it was a different experence, you would have to experence personally to understand.
I have no idea what you just said. Are you saying that I can't understand because I wasn't there?
  
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04-28-2008, 07:27 AM

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Easy, I did it a few years back, Clarksburg, WV, to Colfax, California.

Two uneasy moments.

I got into downtown Cleveland at 3 A.M.
No real passengers to speak of.
Nothing but cranksters looking to rob someone.

Also, downtown Omaha.
We were told that gangs were riding around doing drive-by shootings and it might be wise to stay in the station. I did.
I undersand that those times may have been scary. Even without having experienced the 50's-70's, I think I can put out a good argument for bus travel being safer in modern times.

-I would bet there were just as many predators back then as there are now, we just didn't know it.
-Now that we have cell phones, we can call anyone if there is a problem of any nature. As a child back then if you got lost it may take days before anyone noticed.
-With the internet you can now track buses routes, as well as there progress along those routes fromt he comfort of your own home (if you were sweating your child's safety).

It seems that would be a lot safer now, I may be wrong. I would just like Cowboy to explain to me why it was safer then, that's all.
  
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I attended two different one-room school houses. The first was just Kindergarten, first and second grade. The second was third and fourth graders. My older sister went to another one that was for fifth and sixth graders.

I made it through the fourth grade before the city school was built.

I often think of the low costs to really educate us. No computers, lockers, or any of that. Just a phone ( a really big technology), a water jug, and an outhouse or two (the girls used the one attached to the school, the boys had to trek 50 yards to theirs (can you say freeze you azz off in January?)

I've got a four inch scar on my right arm from the time I got hung up on a sharp, broken tree limb and it literally ripped open my arm and pulled the skin and fat away from it like skinning an animal. It was so cool looking inside my arm and seeing all the parts. Better than any textbook on anatomy! Fun until they used a scrub brush to remove the sap (cuz it was a pine tree) from my wound. Now that hurt!

I used to walk there----up hill, both ways....seriously. There was a big valley between our house and the school. Walking home through the pastures and playing were some of the best times ever....even in snowstorms. 'Cept for that time I fell crossing a barbed-wire fence and scraped my chest along a bunch of barbs...damn! that school was a fuggin' dangerous deal...now kids just worry about getting shot.

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You mention kids having to worry about getting shot, that reminds me that it was rumored that a local farmer kept a shotgun loaded with rock salt at the ready if he caught you taking the short cut through his field. I'm not sure if that scared me more than the bull that was in that pasture!

I was never shot at and the bull never caught me, close a couple of times though.

It was so much fun... damn I miss those days.

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04-28-2008, 07:44 AM

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I have no idea what you just said. Are you saying that I can't understand because I wasn't there?
Some things you have to experence to understand, and the whole experence can not be lived in 2008.


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Some things you have to experence to understand, and the whole experence can not be lived in 2008.
Please just tell me why it was safer.
  
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04-28-2008, 09:14 AM

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I undersand that those times may have been scary. Even without having experienced the 50's-70's, I think I can put out a good argument for bus travel being safer in modern times.

-I would bet there were just as many predators back then as there are now, we just didn't know it.
-Now that we have cell phones, we can call anyone if there is a problem of any nature. As a child back then if you got lost it may take days before anyone noticed.
-With the internet you can now track buses routes, as well as there progress along those routes fromt he comfort of your own home (if you were sweating your child's safety).

It seems that would be a lot safer now, I may be wrong. I would just like Cowboy to explain to me why it was safer then, that's all.

You could be right about awareness, but it certainly seems to me that there are many more predators out there than in the 50s & 60s. Not even close.
These are dangerous times, hoss.
Even in small town America, and that was never the case at one time.

I'm not saying you're wrong but very few of us who lived back then would agree with you, cell phones or not.

Would you put your 10 year old on a bus by himself and have him travel across several states? Wouldn't be a wise thing to do.
In the 50s 99.9% of the time that kid would be just fine. JMHO.
  
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Would you put your 10 year old on a bus by himself and have him travel across several states? Wouldn't be a wise thing to do.
In the 50s 99.9% of the time that kid would be just fine. JMHO.
I guess it's hard for me to answer that. I will have my first kid around Christmas time and I don't think I would send him anywhere by himself when he is ten! Maybe my argument is geared more towards your average adult traveler.
  
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I would just like Cowboy to explain to me why it was safer then, that's all.
I just don't have the time to go into a great explaination, i too busy for that. But lets say in the days of old people looked out for one another, and today it is most about the "ME" factor, and S***w everyone else.


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I just don't have the time to go into a great explaination, i too busy for that. But lets say in the days of old people looked out for one another, and today it is most about the "ME" factor, and S***w everyone else.
I disagree, but thanks for trying to explain.......I guess.
  
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