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10-27-2019, 06:46 PM

My high runs are as follows:

46 on 9' Diamond 4 1/2 inch pockets about about 5 other runs in the 40's.
8' not sure, I grew up with one and had some in the 40's.
7' diamond bar box high is 100 on the nose and 2 runs of 62.
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I really haven't played much on a 9' in a couple years and only really have about 5 years consistent experience playing on them in total, but did play in a straight pool league for a few years and that's mostly where I got all my higher runs above. I would like to think I could run 50 plus on a gold crown with newer cloth on occasion, but at this point who knows if I'll ever put in some time on that kind of equipment. I'm looking at possibly upgrading the house in the near future and if I can get room for a 9', I would sure love that. We'll see. Nice thread and I'm envious of that people that can run over 100 on a 9' Diamond or Gold Crown. That's a hell of a long time to focus!
  
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10-27-2019, 06:53 PM

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I would be willing to bet that most people that have ran anywhere near 100 can remember just as you described..... or close.



I know I'll never forget.



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I agree. My 27 is no big deal and not all that memorable especially as dozen ball runs started happening with some regularity with the occasional 20ish run. Damn sure I run even 50 and progress even higher I’m going to remember it.


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10-27-2019, 06:57 PM

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30 years ago............156 on an over sized 8

2017........86 on a diamond pro-am

Health issues have kept me from staying at the table for long periods of time so, I've been forced to play mostly quick games/short sets of whatever........

currently...........downhill slide.

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10-27-2019, 08:30 PM

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I have a lot of trouble runnng all 15 balls

in the last year i have run in the 20s a few times

I recently got 5 inch pockets and ran a couple of 23,25 s

this game is very tough on me,the more i play the worse i seem to get
Yeah, no question that of all the various pool games one can play, Murphy's Law applies far more to 14.1 than to any other pool game. You can be on a multiple rack run and execute an absolutely perfect breakout shot, and somehow manage to get an object kiss right up against the cue ball and you have virtually no shot. Particularly for those of us 2-3 rack runners that are attempting to break our high run, stuff like this happens more than you would think it possibly could!
  
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10-27-2019, 08:39 PM

Tai chi is practised by a lot of martial artists who specialize in other disciplines.

I feel that 14.1 should be the tai chi of pool players.....
..it will even make a snooker player better.

I see a lot of players practise by racking up 9 balls and running out....
...I don’t feel they get enough value out of that.....they tend to remember all the balls made..
...straight pool doesn’t lie....you might make a lot of balls, but the length of the run tells
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10-28-2019, 05:30 AM

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SBC’s numbers are good. But they don’t make him a pro, as he himself has stated. We used to have these “high run/rack” threads every few years on here. A member would say they ran 200 or 7 racks, and other members would call them liars.

One guy local to me his numbers were something like 8 racks of 9 ball on a GC, and 160 something straight pool on a GC. Yet, another local, that is very well known on a national level named Eddie Abraham, would have been a HUGE betting favorite if they were to match up. Eddie was the top guy in Philly for about 20 years. His Fargo is only about 720 today (I think it would have been about 730 15 years ago...).

Now, to take it a step further, Eddie would play all the out of towners who travelled to Philly every year for the expo. I saw tony Roberto beat him for about 5k playing an 8 ahead 9 ball set. Then another player beat him in bank pool for 3k. Then the Dominican players beat him in last pocket 8 ball for 2 or 3k.

Eddie was our “hero” in Philly. And crews from other states beat the shit out of him. And THEY weren’t even pros!

I’ll give you another example. Eddie and josh brothers would dominate every regional stop in the late 90’s early 2000s when it was called the Tim Scruggs tour. (And later renaned). But during that same period, we would have a Joss stop twice per year. This brought many players from a broader area than the Scruggs stop. Most notably Mike Davis. Mike would crush those stops. Eddie and Josh I don’t believe ever won one of those joss events.

And mike is probably considered a lower level “pro”.

So SBC is absolutely correct. There are several tiers of strong local an regional level players who have all run an 8 or 9 pack or 150+ that would need a lot of weight from even a low level pro.

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Spoken like somebody who has "been there".

I seen Eddie in several matches at SBE. Just a beast of a man, great intensity.

You say it better than I...there's a lot of levels. Fargo does ok capturing one's AVERAGE GAME. It specifically does not catch the range. Meaning on my best day I can shoot plenty good enough to keep anyone in their chair. Which is the beauty of pool...you can't stop a guy from the chair.

At Turning Stone you see players like Joe Dupuis beat Strickland or Dave Grau beat Archer over a decade back. I think pool is missing the best idea...promoting top shortstops from playing the higher teirs. Promote the development of more top talent. The hard part is how. We could handicap...we do have Fargo right.

I run a tourney the day prior to Turning Stone and pros spot amateurs 8 games to 7 in 9 ball. We have had several upsets. Keeps it interesting. Course the cream rises to the top. In any tournament, only 3 guys are really supposed to win. That's just how talent is distributed. Like they say if you are good enough, there is always room at the top.
  
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10-28-2019, 08:16 AM

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Yeah, no question that of all the various pool games one can play, Murphy's Law applies far more to 14.1 than to any other pool game. You can be on a multiple rack run and execute an absolutely perfect breakout shot, and somehow manage to get an object kiss right up against the cue ball and you have virtually no shot. Particularly for those of us 2-3 rack runners that are attempting to break our high run, stuff like this happens more than you would think it possibly could!
yup.
Was playing a guy 75 points even.
He broke and I ran 60 or so.
Final rack I have a break ball on the short rail and have to send the cue ball into the back of the rack.
Normally you try to hit the last 2 balls but I mishit it and wound up frozen to the 8 ball with no shot at all.
I won the game but really wanted the 75 and out.


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10-28-2019, 08:16 AM

52 is the best I have done on a nine foot. I was on 39 one time and had just broke the balls wide open and the guy I was playing raked the balls and forfeited. I was in stroke that day and am pretty sure I would have set my record. I was very aggravated at him.
  
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10-28-2019, 10:00 AM

70. Stuck to the pack on the break shot... Had absolutely no shot.

Haven't really play it much at all and I honestly don't have a clue how to properly/safely break that balls. I'm guessing for the most part. A little instruction on that part would he me tremendously.


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10-28-2019, 10:01 AM

136 is my personal best, though it was not in a game.

I do have a 127 that had started in a game and went onto continue after.


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10-28-2019, 12:02 PM

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SBC’s numbers are good. But they don’t make him a pro, as he himself has stated. We used to have these “high run/rack” threads every few years on here. A member would say they ran 200 or 7 racks, and other members would call them liars.

One guy local to me his numbers were something like 8 racks of 9 ball on a GC, and 160 something straight pool on a GC. Yet, another local, that is very well known on a national level named Eddie Abraham, would have been a HUGE betting favorite if they were to match up. Eddie was the top guy in Philly for about 20 years. His Fargo is only about 720 today (I think it would have been about 730 15 years ago...).

Now, to take it a step further, Eddie would play all the out of towners who travelled to Philly every year for the expo. I saw tony Roberto beat him for about 5k playing an 8 ahead 9 ball set. Then another player beat him in bank pool for 3k. Then the Dominican players beat him in last pocket 8 ball for 2 or 3k.

Eddie was our “hero” in Philly. And crews from other states beat the shit out of him. And THEY weren’t even pros!

I’ll give you another example. Eddie and josh brothers would dominate every regional stop in the late 90’s early 2000s when it was called the Tim Scruggs tour. (And later renaned). But during that same period, we would have a Joss stop twice per year. This brought many players from a broader area than the Scruggs stop. Most notably Mike Davis. Mike would crush those stops. Eddie and Josh I don’t believe ever won one of those joss events.

And mike is probably considered a lower level “pro”.

So SBC is absolutely correct. There are several tiers of strong local an regional level players who have all run an 8 or 9 pack or 150+ that would need a lot of weight from even a low level pro.

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Yeah Eddie can really play. One of the things that I always thought about watching him, if he took his time just a little more he could clean up his mistakes. Eddie losing to other guy's games is not remarkable. An ahead set? Kinda specialist. Last pocket 8 ball? Kinda specialist. When people travel from a third world Country to the United States to put some balls in holes, you might expect their action to be tough.
"And they weren't even pros" Ok...I mean, how sure can you be? Mike Davis is great, I just can't watch his stroke.
  
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Yeah Eddie can really play. One of the things that I always thought about watching him, if he took his time just a little more he could clean up his mistakes. Eddie losing to other guy's games is not remarkable. An ahead set? Kinda specialist. Last pocket 8 ball? Kinda specialist. When people travel from a third world Country to the United States to put some balls in holes, you might expect their action to be tough.
"And they weren't even pros" Ok...I mean, how sure can you be? Mike Davis is great, I just can't watch his stroke.
One thing you learn eventually is you don't play Spanish people in Spanish games! Last pocket 8 and 1 pocket 1 hope are crazy games.
  
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Wow that's a big number I'm impressed, still like to know your name to see if I know you or someone I know knows you , like Tommy Kay you can pm me if you don't want to say here

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My name is Jeff Crouch.

My high run was a looonnngggg time ago and on much easier and more traditional equipment from back then.

Today, I'm lucky if I break 50 on a good day. The 9' pro-am doesn't make it any easier but, I doubt I could do much better on easier equipment.

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10-28-2019, 10:50 PM

I haven't played much 14.1 outside of my league matches here in Germany. Last season I had a 31 in competition, a few more in the high 20's, and at my German club, I got a 51 or so once, practicing by myself with a ball-in-hand start... Ran something like 60 fooling around on a Diamond barbox once.

Given how little effort I put into the game, and how little I am practicing, 31 ain't bad. Good enough to beat pretty much every Landesliga player, and most Verbandsliga players.

Once I lose more weight, I really want to put more effort into tightening up my stroke, and practicing thinner cutshots and powering through the rack on the break. My patterns are pretty good in 14.1, and I get on break balls good, but I think I generally hit the break at the wrong speed. I think a little bit of effort, and I will be one of the top 3-4 players at my local club here in Germany.

To get any better than that, I'd probably need to go find some really good players to practice with a few times a month.
  
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