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Apa not disclosing covid19 infected players??? - 09-02-2020, 02:33 PM

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APA NOT DISCLOSING KNOWN COVID19 INFECTED PLAYERS??? Basically the local APA Operator is saying he does not have to tell anyone who they are.

What do people think about this? Claiming Hipaa as a means to not disclose?? Lets hear what all you fine AZB'ers think!

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Apa not disclosing covid19 infected players??? - 09-02-2020, 02:40 PM

HIPAA doesn’t apply to him. I would think he has a social obligation if he becomes aware of a COVID positive player to participate in some contact tracing. Any team that was exposed to the player should be required to sit out a quarantine period and potentially get tested. I would consider offering rescheduling options for those matches. I think he has the discretion whether to disclose the person’s name. In his shoes, I would not.


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09-02-2020, 02:42 PM

This happened here in Boise also. Had to cancel 2 weeks of league because 2 players tested positive. At first I was a little pissed but then I was informed that all the people who played with them were notified.

It would've been nice to know who it was when it happened (I now know) but as long as anyone who could've been affected is informed then that's good with me.


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09-02-2020, 05:22 PM

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This is completely pool related.

APA NOT DISCLOSING KNOWN COVID19 INFECTED PLAYERS??? Basically the local APA Operator is saying he does not have to tell anyone who they are.

What do people think about this? Claiming Hipaa as a means to not disclose?? Lets hear what all you fine AZB'ers think!

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HIPPA Violation to tell, could be costly if they gave out personal medical info.

ChopDoc, aka SawDeTheBone I am sure would agree. Wonder if he is busy chopping of limb on trees, or people?


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09-02-2020, 05:34 PM

You have to dig deeper though.
If an entity can be held liable for information, it must have an entitlement to the information.

I seriously doubt any agreement between the apa and it's players had either the foresight to contractually require players to disclose infectious disease, or the right to know anything about its participants' personal health information.

I find in favor of the defendant.


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09-02-2020, 05:38 PM

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HIPPA Violation to tell, could be costly if they gave out personal medical info.

ChopDoc, aka SawDeTheBone I am sure would agree. Wonder if he is busy chopping of limb on trees, or people?

HIPAA only applies to health plans, health care clearinghouses and health care providers. If you tell your medical history to the public (a league operator), they have no legal obligation to keep secret what you already disclosed.


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09-02-2020, 05:39 PM

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This is completely pool related.

APA NOT DISCLOSING KNOWN COVID19 INFECTED PLAYERS??? Basically the local APA Operator is saying he does not have to tell anyone who they are.

What do people think about this? Claiming Hipaa as a means to not disclose?? Lets hear what all you fine AZB'ers think!

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No it's not up to them. If I were league operator I would encourage the individuals who tested positive to let the other players know. If your area has contact tracing, if you were within 6 feet for 15 minutes or more, that is considered close contact and you should be contacted to quarantine and/or get tested. If you play pool now, this is something you are willing to risk, simple as that.


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09-02-2020, 05:42 PM

Wife has over 35 years in nursing, some as a nurse, some teaching nursing, and remainder in nursing management. Cannot disclose the persons name, but have the duty to inform all those in contact. lets face it, on something such as a pool league, people will end up piecing it together anyway, in time.
  
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09-02-2020, 05:58 PM

hipaa is not a mechanism for the operator not to disclose
the operator is not a covered entity under hipaa
but the LO is not legally responsible to disclose that info. to their league
that said
it would morally behoove the LO to ask the player for consent to disclose


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09-02-2020, 06:01 PM

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HIPAA only applies to health plans, health care clearinghouses and health care providers. If you tell your medical history to the public (a league operator), they have no legal obligation to keep secret what you already disclosed.


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Well if they ask, you have no obligation to tell them anything. They can say you can't play I guess. Then they might just have another problem.

Wonder if we got a people who actually know about the HIPPA LAWS, like a Lawyer, or Law School student?


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09-02-2020, 06:03 PM

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HIPAA only applies to health plans, health care clearinghouses and health care providers. If you tell your medical history to the public (a league operator), they have no legal obligation to keep secret what you already disclosed.


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Not really, though I doubt it would apply to a league operator. It does apply to more than just those specific items though.


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Not really, though I doubt it would apply to a league operator. It does apply to more than just those specific items though.

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09-03-2020, 04:24 AM

Had 1 guy test positive in our APA league.
LO cancelled play that week, notified team captains, and pool hall was cleaned top to bottom.
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09-03-2020, 04:34 AM

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This is completely pool related.

APA NOT DISCLOSING KNOWN COVID19 INFECTED PLAYERS??? Basically the local APA Operator is saying he does not have to tell anyone who they are.

What do people think about this? Claiming Hipaa as a means to not disclose?? Lets hear what all you fine AZB'ers think!

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Just another reason for me not to play league pool again. Let's see, i think that makes it reason # 586.
  
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09-03-2020, 05:50 AM

Oh, notice I left my opinion about whether it should be going on at all...... I will continue to do that

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