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11-08-2019, 11:48 AM

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The spectators put up the money. It would start out in a backyard somewhere. How did Kimbo Slice start? Who put up the money for his backyard brawls?
So, the millions paid to snooker players is put up by the spectators?....yeah, ok, keep believing that.
  
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11-08-2019, 12:38 PM

Glen has a point. Tobacco £ was the big money in snooker. Now whatís left is in China and thatís a dicey situation at best.


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11-08-2019, 01:22 PM

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Remember there was about 5 channels of TV to choose from. So lots of eyes were on that because there was nothing else.

When you go to eat ice cream and thereís 4 flavors all 4 are pretty popular. When thereís 4,000 flavors (like there are media options now) there are a few that nobody cares about.

Pool just canít compete. Enjoy it for what it is in front of you and call it a day. If thereís any real opportunity the cream will rise to the top.

How long are people gonna dream the ďimpossible dreamĒ seems like I heard that in a movie in 1986-which hasnít had a sequel yet. Whatís that tell you????

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11-08-2019, 02:19 PM

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So, the millions paid to snooker players is put up by the spectators?....yeah, ok, keep believing that.
Millions and snooker? I'm talking about something far more "grassroots" and far more fun than stuffy snooker. Something American.
  
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As a young man I always wanted a pool table in a home someday. Getting ready to buy a house soon. Plan on a shuffleboard instead for the grandkids. Pool died a long ago, nobody bothered to tell the players.
You joined a pool forum to tell us that shuffleboard is more "alive?" LMAO.
  
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11-08-2019, 02:32 PM

No Just to say pool is dead. Made me actually SAD to see Mike Massey giving an exhibition recently, nobody except me even knew who he was. Went for shuffleboard because don't want the WHACK sound of a break shot disturbing the neighbors. Used to love that sound when Ed Kelly was playing 9 ball in Baltimore, fresh out of the marines, I think. Just Ed Kelly back then, not Champagne Eddie Kelly, may he rest in peace.
  
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11-08-2019, 02:41 PM

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No Just to say pool is dead. Made me actually SAD to see Mike Massey giving an exhibition recently, nobody except me even knew who he was. Went for shuffleboard because don't want the WHACK sound of a break shot disturbing the neighbors. Used to love that sound when Ed Kelly was playing 9 ball in Baltimore, fresh out of the marines, I think. Just Ed Kelly back then, not Champagne Eddie Kelly, may he rest in peace.
Recently? That's what I would expect. He has been out of the spotlight and away from cameras for awhile now. I'm sorry you have to worry about your neighbors. Wished I could have seen Kelly in his prime.
  
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11-08-2019, 02:45 PM

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Millions and snooker? I'm talking about something far more "grassroots" and far more fun than stuffy snooker. Something American.
There is no more American pool, its international pool now, that's what most Americans FAIL to understand!!
  
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There is no more American pool, its international pool now, that's what most Americans FAIL to understand!!
Alcohol, screaming, and pool with the best pros I can find willing to put up with it. There is nothing ambiguous, grandiose, or complicated about that. Its not about the game, its not about the players, its about giving people a good time.
  
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Glen has a point. Tobacco £ was the big money in snooker. Now whatís left is in China and thatís a dicey situation at best.
Sports betting houses have replaced the tobacco industry in guaranteed prize monies at the snooker world championships.
  
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11-08-2019, 02:52 PM

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No Just to say pool is dead. Made me actually SAD to see Mike Massey giving an exhibition recently, nobody except me even knew who he was. Went for shuffleboard because don't want the WHACK sound of a break shot disturbing the neighbors. Used to love that sound when Ed Kelly was playing 9 ball in Baltimore, fresh out of the marines, I think. Just Ed Kelly back then, not Champagne Eddie Kelly, may he rest in peace.
Not what it was but its far from dead. In the Ok., Ks, Tx area its doing ok. Plenty of tournaments and league. Action got killed pretty much by all the casinos. Still some going on tho.
  
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Alcohol, screaming, and pool with the best pros I can find willing to put up with it. There is nothing ambiguous, grandiose, or complicated about that. Its not about the game, its not about the players, its about giving people a good time.
Last thing I'd want to be around is a bunch of drunks that don't care about the event taking place, or anywhere else for that matter!
  
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Recently? That's what I would expect. He has been out of the spotlight and away from cameras for awhile now. I'm sorry you have to worry about your neighbors. Wished I could have seen Kelly in his prime.
I saw a lot of greats, just never really appreciated. In 1958, I was 17 and rack boy for Mosconi in an exhibition. Another kid I shot with was Joe Cataldi. Ed Kelly was just a guy out of the marines in Baltimore, I lost $50 backing Henry Gordon in 3 rail billiards against Ed Kelly. Just plain Ed, Not Champagne Eddie Kelly back then. Mike Sigel was just a guy playing 3 way with Joe Cataldi and Seymour Lessans.
Played some man named Rich Riggie, suspected he could shoot a little when he ran 108 against me. One handed.LOL Used to collect bets for Henry Gordon and collect from Julius the Lord Salisbury, 2 of biggest bookies on East coast. The LORD still my hero. Beat the Feds on a rap when Supreme Court ruled in his favor day he was to go to jail. Years later I ran some checks for him to a drug store that cashed out of state checks.
Feds nailed him, interstate transportation of gambling funds. Awaiting sentencing date, to be announced later, he moved out of house and into apartment. Day Feds came to pick him up, Lord was gone. Even sold furniture and snuck it out too under fed's noses. Searched for him, USA Israel, south america , etc. Never found.
But they were just everyday guys I knew back then. Could care less about my neighbors, just thought Mike deserved better.
  
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Last thing I'd want to be around is a bunch of drunks that don't care about the event taking place, or anywhere else for that matter!
Right, and that's cool, professional wrestling isn't for everyone, the Waste Management Open isn't for everyone, the Mosconi Cup isn't for everyone. Part of the pruning I was referring to. But if I have to error, I'm going to go down having a good time.
  
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I saw a lot of greats, just never really appreciated. In 1958, I was 17 and rack boy for Mosconi in an exhibition. Another kid I shot with was Joe Cataldi. Ed Kelly was just a guy out of the marines in Baltimore, I lost $50 backing Henry Gordon in 3 rail billiards against Ed Kelly. Just plain Ed, Not Champagne Eddie Kelly back then. Mike Sigel was just a guy playing 3 way with Joe Cataldi and Seymour Lessans.
Played some man named Rich Riggie, suspected he could shoot a little when he ran 108 against me. One handed.LOL Used to collect bets for Henry Gordon and collect from Julius the Lord Salisbury, 2 of biggest bookies on East coast. The LORD still my hero. Beat the Feds on a rap when Supreme Court ruled in his favor day he was to go to jail. Years later I ran some checks for him to a drug store that cashed out of state checks.
Feds nailed him, interstate transportation of gambling funds. Awaiting sentencing date, to be announced later, he moved out of house and into apartment. Day Feds came to pick him up, Lord was gone. Even sold furniture and snuck it out too under fed's noses. Searched for him, USA Israel, south america , etc. Never found.
But they were just everyday guys I knew back then. Could care less about my neighbors, just thought Mike deserved better.
Now THAT is a response. I hope you stick around and tell some stories.
  
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