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Favourite wood for playability? - 10-23-2015, 08:03 AM

What is you favourite wood for a solid hit.

I bought a entry level cue made of maple mostly and the hit has something missing from it.
The maple hit isnt very solid. The look of maple is very nice though. What type of core would you recommend?
  
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10-23-2015, 08:26 AM

I am a big fan of a purpleheart core. This works very well even when one uses a wild burl wood(stabilized) for the front(it is like using lots of makeup on an ugly date, lol).

In regards to playability of different woods, I like either Brazilian rosewood or Ebony for the points.
  
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10-23-2015, 09:53 AM

Maple is my favorite wood for a solid hit. Just not a one piece butt made of Maple. The normal three piece butt made correctly of all Maple will be hard to beat as to how it plays.
  
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10-23-2015, 12:03 PM

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Maple is my favorite wood for a solid hit. Just not a one piece butt made of Maple. The normal three piece butt made correctly of all Maple will be hard to beat as to how it plays.
+1...

If the hit is bad, something is wrong with the cue... OR...

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10-23-2015, 02:01 PM

Got several cues mostly maple forearm and 2 with Macassar ebony front, The 2 mac ebony front has the best hit. It has Paduak handle. When you hit the CB, it has a "ping" sound

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10-23-2015, 03:20 PM

Do you find the cue spins more or hits straighter on your Mac forearm cues compared to the maple forearm?

Rhino - that is the set up I was looking at it re assuring to hear that it plays good. Cored all the way through?
  
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10-23-2015, 03:30 PM

spins and hitting straight ? I doubt it, hard to explain, but it just felt right....
Kinda like comparing my Ferrari and Lambo, both are fast and corners well, but the Ferrari just feels better
No coring..

Last night i did the tap with the the forearm test on a couple cues and the paduak handle / mac forearm cues had the least vibration, basically its stiffer.

The maple forearm cues felt "dull" even with the same tip.

BTW,,, i heard Brazilian Rosewood hits even better.. got to get my hands on those woods,.




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Do you find the cue spins more or hits straighter on your Mac forearm cues compared to the maple forearm?

Rhino - that is the set up I was looking at it re assuring to hear that it plays good. Cored all the way through?

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hit - 10-23-2015, 10:32 PM

Hit is subjective. Your maple cue should hit as solid and stiff as any cue out there - IF it's made right. If it has an A joint - it's got to be faced right and joined right. The joint has to be faced properly also. Zero to zero tolerances makes a solid hit. What you can do to try to improve the feel of your cue is to change the ferrule. An Aegis ferrule or ivorite ferrule is about as hard as you can get. I feel that a capped ferrule is not only structurally stronger - but it produces a more solid hit. (many will argue that isn't true) Lastly, put on a good quality medium hardness tip that has been pressed. Cut it down to slightly over half height. We aren't trying to get the most tip life at this point - we are trying to get your desired effect/hit. Tall tips hit softer. This is your best chance to solve your problem. Hope this helps.


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10-24-2015, 08:24 AM

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Got several cues mostly maple forearm and 2 with Macassar ebony front, The 2 mac ebony front has the best hit. It has Paduak handle. When you hit the CB, it has a "ping" sound
Maple is not a tone wood like Ebony and has a duller sound, but has a much more lively hit. Do these cues have stainless joints? Do you feel the sound of the cue makes it play better? I have built many Ebony forearm cues and they do not move the cue ball as easily as Maple except on follow shots. They also cause more misses when applying English.
  
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10-24-2015, 07:43 PM

No stainless steel joint. Either ivory, phenolic or buffalo horn. First time i heard about maple being more accurate than ebony on the butt section.

Does stiffness of the cue play a part in increasing deflection ?

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Maple is not a tone wood like Ebony and has a duller sound, but has a much more lively hit. Do these cues have stainless joints? Do you feel the sound of the cue makes it play better? I have built many Ebony forearm cues and they do not move the cue ball as easily as Maple except on follow shots. They also cause more misses when applying English.

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10-24-2015, 09:45 PM

BRW with stag collar and G-10 joint screw.

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Brw - 10-25-2015, 11:23 AM

Like Joey said, BRW, G-10 and stag collar. No stag, then Axis is the same thing.


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10-25-2015, 09:55 PM

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No stainless steel joint. Either ivory, phenolic or buffalo horn. First time i heard about maple being more accurate than ebony on the butt section.

Does stiffness of the cue play a part in increasing deflection ?
Maple has what I call compression action and that is desirable for draw shots and pocketing balls to me. Something has to give when the cue hits the cue ball. To stiff and it sends the cue ball off aiming line too much and too limber will do the same thing. Ebony falls on the too stiff side and Maple falls in the middle and it is no accident that maple has been the number one wood in quality pool cue shafts for longer than any of us have been alive. Maple compresses just the right amount and springs back where as Ebony does not.
There are people who love Ebony forearms feel and will adjust their game to it in time and never like a Maple forearm. So it is each to his own, but as far as I am concerned Maple is the Goldie Locks of cue woods.

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10-26-2015, 06:32 AM

Given your example, what is a wood that would fall too far to the soft side? Also, how does the effect of coring change the stiffness. I understand it depends on the coring material, glue used and construction method of the A joint. Just trying to figure out if some could hit with a cue and tell you if it was cored and with what wood?

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10-26-2015, 07:01 AM

I thought maple was chosen for its tightness of grain which makes it smooth on the bridge hand....

if maple was more accurate why do snooker players use Ash wood ?

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