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10-07-2018, 11:19 AM

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Actually itís far worse.

Monetarily a high premium is often paid for hybrids, and when taken in totality they are eco-disasters.

Coal powered cares ... phooey.
Worse, on total production carbon footprint and other eco-concerns, sure, I guess. I've seen some credible information saying that. And they do not pay back for the premium of their cost in any reasonable time of use, either. That's just easy arithmetic, and I drive less than 5,000 miles a year anyway. It would take many times my remaining life expectancy to net back the cost premium, maybe even 100 years.

But if I buy one, it won't be some custom commissioned vehicle made only because I ordered it. It will be out of dealer stock that has already been made, for a car whose eco-costs are already sunk. As to my use, the only thing really is the marginal emissions difference, and none of it would involve coal, since I'm not considering a plug-in hybrid model.


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It will be out of dealer stock that has already been made, for a car whose eco-costs are already sunk.
Thats a pretty lame justification.

If you want one then buy one.

I admire the PRIUS/VOLT/LEAF as technological wonders ... but I have no misunderstandings as to there eco-costs.

If that is ones sole motivation, the best choice is probably to keep whatever one has now.


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Thats a pretty lame justification.

If you want one then buy one.

I admire the PRIUS/VOLT/LEAF as technological wonders ... but I have no misunderstandings as to there eco-costs.

If that is ones sole motivation, the best choice is probably to keep whatever one has now.
My vehicle is 13 years old, and gets under 15 mpg in mixed use. (Close to 20 mpg on the highway.) Standing pat with this one is not a great choice.


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My vehicle is 13 years old, and gets under 15 mpg in mixed use. (Close to 20 mpg on the highway.) Standing pat with this one is not a great choice.
I would agree, but if your only concerns are eco-concerns then keeping it is probably your best bet.


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