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09-16-2019, 02:19 PM

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in my childhood experiences, those kids were called a "spaz" and they gravitated towards interests that required consistently high RPM's... and they were good at it... they would be the calm one when "normal" kids would be in a state of chaos... the opposite of what was happening in a structured boring classroom setting

there wasn't anything "wrong" with them that needed to be fixed other than to help them find a lifestyle/career/hobbies that synched up with their internal frequency... in my obviously non-medical opinion of course
There is quite a difference between such a personality and an actual pathology.

I have clients that might have not been able to become doctors without being "fixed".

Indeed, the world needs ditch diggers I guess.


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09-16-2019, 02:27 PM

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Clearly you don't understand genetics for one thing.

But there are numerous things you reveal you don't understand. Are you aware that there are no genetic studies done to put male or female on a birth certificate?

I do understand your point of view and where it comes from.

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Clearly, I do. I understand that in VERY RARE instances a person may have an extra x or y chromosome, but you still either have a y chromosome, or you do not, and those VERY RARE instances don't amount to even a fraction of a percent of the population. It does not take genetic studies to determine a gender for a birth certificate. A visual examination is a very quick and very accurate method.

I also understand a mental illness when I see one, and so do the people at Johns Hopkins, THE foremost institution in the industry. A person that "identifies" as something they are not, be it male, female, non-existent "genders", black, Native American, or some fool that wants to marry other than within the human species, is by definition mentally ill. And I will NEVER recognize other than male or female genders, as I will not condone "identifying" as something a person is not nor could ever be. Nobody else should either.

A parent that does not put either "male" or "female" (with the VERY RARE circumstances of hermaphrodites) on a birth certificate, in the interest of "letting the child decide later", is clearly guilty of abuse and should not be allowed to have children.


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09-16-2019, 02:28 PM

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There is quite a difference between such a personality and an actual pathology.

I have clients that might have not been able to become doctors without being "fixed".

Indeed, the world needs ditch diggers I guess.
ditch diggers? that's a high-rpm job in your opinion?

although sports is one avenue I was thinking of, ditch digging has no fast, on-the-fly mental processing requirements that would satisfy a spaz

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09-16-2019, 02:51 PM

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Clearly, I do. I understand that in VERY RARE instances a person may have an extra x or y chromosome, but you still either have a y chromosome, or you do not, and those VERY RARE instances don't amount to even a fraction of a percent of the population. It does not take genetic studies to determine a gender for a birth certificate. A visual examination is a very quick and very accurate method.

I also understand a mental illness when I see one, and so do the people at Johns Hopkins, THE foremost institution in the industry. A person that "identifies" as something they are not, be it male, female, non-existent "genders", black, Native American, or some fool that wants to marry other than within the human species, is by definition mentally ill. And I will NEVER recognize other than male or female genders, as I will not condone "identifying" as something a person is not nor could ever be. Nobody else should either.

A parent that does not put either "male" or "female" (with the VERY RARE circumstances of hermaphrodites) on a birth certificate, in the interest of "letting the child decide later", is clearly guilty of abuse and should not be allowed to have children.
Indeed. Coddling mental illness is simply wrong in so many ways. And this is kind of ironic here...seeing as how Chopdoc is so quick and with incomplete info to label people child abusers.
  
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09-16-2019, 02:53 PM

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ditch diggers? that's a high-rpm job in your opinion?

although sports is one avenue I was thinking of, ditch digging has no fast, on-the-fly mental processing requirements that would satisfy a spaz
No.

It's an expression. I would have thought you have heard of it.



The fact is that a person with true ADHD can't do what you are claiming.

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Clearly, I do. I understand that in VERY RARE instances a person may have an extra x or y chromosome, but you still either have a y chromosome, or you do not, and those VERY RARE instances don't amount to even a fraction of a percent of the population. It does not take genetic studies to determine a gender for a birth certificate. A visual examination is a very quick and very accurate method.

I also understand a mental illness when I see one, and so do the people at Johns Hopkins, THE foremost institution in the industry. A person that "identifies" as something they are not, be it male, female, non-existent "genders", black, Native American, or some fool that wants to marry other than within the human species, is by definition mentally ill. And I will NEVER recognize other than male or female genders, as I will not condone "identifying" as something a person is not nor could ever be. Nobody else should either.

A parent that does not put either "male" or "female" (with the VERY RARE circumstances of hermaphrodites) on a birth certificate, in the interest of "letting the child decide later", is clearly guilty of abuse and should not be allowed to have children.
Clearly you don't understand actually.

You have only made it more clear.


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09-16-2019, 03:59 PM

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No.

It's an expression. I would have thought you have heard of it.



The fact is that a person with true ADHD can't do what you are claiming.

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ahhhh.... gotcha on the terminology... yes, I was being literal... digging ditches is tough ass work by the way

"true" ADHD? that wouldn't be an admission that the ADHD label/diagnosis is, shall we say, "overprescribed"?
  
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ahhhh.... gotcha on the terminology... yes, I was being literal... digging ditches is tough ass work by the way

"true" ADHD? that wouldn't be an admission that the ADHD label/diagnosis is, shall we say, "overprescribed"?
VERY much so in my opinion.

It's not an "admission", I would have told you if you had asked.

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Indeed. Coddling mental illness is simply wrong in so many ways. And this is kind of ironic here...seeing as how Chopdoc is so quick and with incomplete info to label people child abusers.
So you think you are strictly a product of genetic code?

Please look up epigenetics.

And by the way, as an expert, take my word for it regarding child abuse.

You say incomplete information, you are wrong.

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We already clearly identified your bigotry.

Do you have mental health issues? I could opine.
Hell, look at my signature for further evidence of this fellas "mental" status.....


If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.


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So you think you are strictly a product of genetic code?

Please look up epigenetics.

And by the way, as an expert, take my word for it regarding child abuse.

You say incomplete information, you are wrong.

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I and most everybody don't need to play semantic games. Being a man or a woman (with some very minor cases of genetic defects...which I only mention to preclude that nonsensical line of argument) is a pretty simple concept. And most of us don't choose to indulge mental illness because those with it or in that sphere of influence will get their feelings hurt.

No, I'm right. In case you forgot - not too long ago after I told you that you couldn't know they were child abusers....after you had conclusively said they were...you conceded you could not know that. And why couldn't you - because you had incomplete information. It's not that confusing.
  
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09-16-2019, 05:42 PM

the number should be much higher it should be the same number as the number of those with gender identity disorder.. we could use their actual names...

I do think though that the numbers of those claiming the disorder to be trendy are higher than the actual number of patients.

I also think forcing everyone to accommodate special needs only goes so far I saw a therapy lizard in the produce department the other day.. maybe doc will chime in on the salmonella risk....


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09-16-2019, 05:55 PM

Yeah, let's all indulge this mental illness for example. This man got upset...some cussing.

Misgendered transgender person gets furious in a GameStop shop

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