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05-22-2012, 08:32 PM

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Is there any chance that this Tito character was in Jonesboro, Arkansas around 1993-94? Short, skinny guy with slick, black hair? Would have been in his early 20's (maybe) around that time? Everyone thought he was Hispanic, but the rumor was that Mike Sigel trained him in Hawaii. I could see him being a Hawaiian kid. I got the chance to play him for fun at Ron's Recreation in Jonesboro after watching him play for several months. I was playing the sportiest pool of my life and he beat me 6-4 in 9-ball on the big table. I couldn't help but think he was tryin to hide his speed a bit, as he really wanted some action. I told him that I wasn't a gambler and I just wanted his best game. I asked him about who trained him and he said, "Sigel in Hawaii....". But, I often wondered if he said that just because he knew the rumor.

I had heard later that Tito had moved on and was shot somewhere in the South. It didn't surprise me, simply because everyone hated him at Ron's, or so it seemed, whether it be out of jealousy or the fact that he ran his mouth a lot. Someone even made their feelings known about him on the men's bathroom wall.

I happened to run into Chuck Burns (brother of Vester Burns) and he recounted the same recollection of Tito.

Granted, I've not been around a lot, but Tito is still the best player I ever played. He was extremely quick, graceful and dragged the cueball around on a string. I've honestly still never seen anyone play like that. Ever.

And he LOVED to play the 9-ball Ghost.

Anyone else ever see the guy? Wish I had a pic.



This is a photo of Tito, he won the 9-Ball Arkansas State Championship back in 95, he's the one in the top photo, "Good Time" Charlie Owens from Monroe,LA. is the bottom photo.


I looked up the year he won it on APPA, this is the Tito that Tommy-D was talking about , his name was listed as Tito Keanu

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05-22-2012, 09:31 PM

Holy cow, David! That's the Tito I played. I never thought I'd see a pic of him.

Does anyone know the true story of his apparent early demise? I had always assumed that he hustled the wrong guy. Maybe so. Maybe not.

Is he wearing a green kilt in that pic or what?

What speed would you say he was, David? Any comparisons? Was the Sigel bit true?


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05-22-2012, 10:28 PM

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Jimmy Wales was the best young player at 15 i ever saw. He was giving players like Earl Kellum the 8 and beating them. I carried him on the road at 15 and he robbed players like Harold Dollar.
If anyone knows where Jimmy Wales is, I would appreciate any information on how to get in touch with him. He called my local poolroom a few years back and was out west somewhere. Thanks.
  
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05-23-2012, 04:51 AM

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Ya thats my dad. Its weird seeing him that young cuz i look just like him, except better looking Ha!
In 1970 at Johnston City, your daddy and I played One Pocket almost every day -- I had no chance with him playing 9 Ball. He won the All - Around against Ronnie and Wimpy playing with my Joss cue.

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Ya thats my dad. Its weird seeing him that young cuz i look just like him, except better looking Ha!
I tell ya a story about your dad and those hippies from Carbondale Univ. that showed up to cheer him on. Fats was of course in the mix DUH and a bunch of hippie chicks were surrounding him and talking, one of the gals asked for his autograph, and I'll never forget, ''Fatty Became Speechless''....Fats whipped out his signature stamp....and ink pad, the gal said, "if I wanted a signature like that I would of gone to a bank". Fats needed some weight he was in a tough spot now .


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05-23-2012, 11:12 AM

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Holy cow, David! That's the Tito I played. I never thought I'd see a pic of him.

Does anyone know the true story of his apparent early demise? I had always assumed that he hustled the wrong guy. Maybe so. Maybe not.

Is he wearing a green kilt in that pic or what?

What speed would you say he was, David? Any comparisons? Was the Sigel bit true?
Something else that I just remembered about Tito......

After we played the set, I asked him if he could give me some lessons. He looked me straight in the eye and said, "I can teach you one thing that will turn your game way up....." (or something to that effect).

I said, "What is it?"

Tito reply was, "That'll cost you 50 bucks. But, I can tell you it has something to do with your back hand."

Fifty bucks was a fortune for a young guy like me in college. I declined to pay and I've always regretted it. I saw him around a bit after that and then he disappeared. I stopped going to Ron's Recreation, and within 2 more years or so, I pretty much dropped the game. Until last year. And in this past year (after a 15 year layoff), I've figured out that I was gripping the cue with my back hand way too high up on the wrap. It had gotten so bad that I couldn't even draw a ball anymore. I've since corrected it, but I've always wondered what Tito would or could have taught me.

I honestly wish I had spent more time talking to the guy.


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05-23-2012, 01:59 PM

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Tito reply was, "That'll cost you 50 bucks. But, I can tell you it has something to do with your back hand."

And in this past year (after a 15 year layoff), I've figured out that I was gripping the cue with my back hand way too high up on the wrap. It had gotten so bad that I couldn't even draw a ball anymore.

I've since corrected it, but I've always wondered what Tito would or could have taught me.

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I know this will sound silly, but if he watching your game and said that he could tell you one thing that'll up your game and it has to do with your back hand...


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In 1970 at Johnston City, your daddy and I played One Pocket almost every day -- I had no chance with him playing 9 Ball. He won the All - Around against Ronnie and Wimpy playing with my Joss cue.

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Hey i know who your are!!!! your one of my favorite players!!! My dad told me all about you. He said you were a Monster at One pocket and that you've beaten alot of great players! Even my dad and i wanna say you beat him while in Johnson City just before the tournament. Ya my dad told me about you backing him and using your cue. I heard you have a book out and a movie script?
  
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I tell ya a story about your dad and those hippies from Carbondale Univ. that showed up to cheer him on. Fats was of course in the mix DUH and a bunch of hippie chicks were surrounding him and talking, one of the gals asked for his autograph, and I'll never forget, ''Fatty Became Speechless''....Fats whipped out his signature stamp....and ink pad, the gal said, "if I wanted a signature like that I would of gone to a bank". Fats needed some weight he was in a tough spot now .
Haha...you have to tell me more about that cause my dad has never mentioned anything to me about that and thats the kind of stuff i like to hear about! I guess he must be embarassed about his hippie days! thanks for sharing that with me! i must hear more!
  
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Hey i know who your are!!!! your one of my favorite players!!! My dad told me all about you. He said you were a Monster at One pocket and that you've beaten alot of great players! Even my dad and i wanna say you beat him while in Johnson City just before the tournament. Ya my dad told me about you backing him and using your cue. I heard you have a book out and a movie script?
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Haha...you have to tell me more about that cause my dad has never mentioned anything to me about that and thats the kind of stuff i like to hear about! I guess he must be embarassed about his hippie days! thanks for sharing that with me! i must hear more!
Not much else, tho he seemed very quiet/reserved, I watched em play lights out in the front pit 9 footer. I also kinda remember him wearing a leather type jacket that hung long and may of had leather tassles. Wide World of Sports probably has footage of his match, somewhere as they came and shot the final matches. He kinda reminded me of a calm Cole Dixon. Your dad and I are the almost the same age and it was a special time during those Vietnam yrs and the cultural change and seeing your day playing all the old timers in their suit and sport coats and he just the opposite and time were a changing.


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Here's a name from the past. Dalton was a terrific Asian player living in L.A. Just under Brian's speed. He became a successful actor and was killed in a robbery in New York in the late 70's. Does anyone else remember Dalton, a handsome kid.
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Yes thats him. I backed him for a while in the mid-seventies. We both had long hair in those days.
I knew Biily when he hung around the Blue Carpet in Alameda in the early 70's before he when on the road. Strong player and a great guy.
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