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07-05-2020, 08:02 PM

Thanks Gene for the thread, and now for my short story.

I kinda play ok for a wannabe but Iím always looking to improve. Lately Iíve been struggling and dog way to many shots. So today I decided to just practice. I miss so many straight in shots, and just canít really figure it out. After reading this thread I remember talking with you about 8 or 10 year ago about sighting and dominate eye stuff.

I starting adjusting my head alignment and started making a higher percentage of shots and less side spin. Iíll play around with it some more and see if it at least fixes some of my problems. If football season ever kicks off maybe Iíll get a trip to Minneapolis and pay you a visit.
  
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07-05-2020, 08:41 PM

Geno and I had a Skype call today. Right off the bat I will say he wore me out. That old guy has tons of energy. We were on the call for 2 hrs 45 min, and he was heading to play in a tourney right after.

This is my 3rd "personalized" interaction with Gene. The first was I bought his DVD I think in 2010. I immediately noticed a big improvement in my shot confidence, and felt like I couldn't miss "some shots, when they looked right".

The second was in Tunica, at the Southern classic. I guess that was about 2013, it all blends together now. It was right after a match of his. I introduced myself and he spent about an hour with me in person on a table there.

The third was today via Skype.

The guy loves pool, loves to play, loves to teach, and loves to see players improve.

Now, I've been using his system for the past 10 years, but you guys know how it is, sometimes you lose focus, sometimes you don't feel like playing for a while, sometimes you forget, etc.

Today Geno helped me fine tune what I was doing with my head position. BTW, his system is about getting your head/eyes in the best place so the shot looks "on". It doesn't tell you where to hit, how much spin to put, how to compensate for throw, English, squirt, etc. All those things you don't have to relearn. Its literally moving your head around a specific way until your eyes see the shot right. So all of your prior knowledge transfers right over. When your eyes/head are in that right place, it really feels like you can't miss. When its not in that place, for me anyway, it feels almost like I'm looking at something cross-eyed. For me, this cross-eyed sensation was only happening on cuts to the left.

After the lesson I played about 5 hours. I really felt like I was going to beat the 9 ball ghost and wanted to post a video beating it. (I beat it about twice per year, that is my speed...). Well, the best I could do was losing 4-7, and I had a few sets I was blanked. So the lesson didn't immediately translate to a better ghost win. But, within the sets, there was many shots that just felt amazingly on. First, the straight in shot. I wasn't getting even 1/4" of side to side movement of the CB after making the shot. It really felt aligned. This also transferred to the break. I was braeaking very hard, and really hitting them full, and taking care of the CB. Of course not every break, but definitly much better breaks than last week.

The left hand cut shots still felt a touch weaker than right hand cuts, but they were much stronger than before the lesson.

I recorded the lesson (with Geno's permission). I'm going to review it again later. I hope to put a winning ghost set up for you guys in the next few days as well.

Shots where I could see the pocket I felt my confidence was way higher, in both left and right directions. Blind shots I don't think improved any. Geno showed me a few tricks on those, but I have not worked on them yet. I was so excited I just wanted to play the ghost and beat it. ha ha.

Anyway sorry for all the rambling, I'm tired and don't feel like organizing my thoughts better.

I'd recommend anyone give Geno a call though. Some players probably already have their head in the right place. But if you don't, and then you learn a few of Geno's tricks to get it there, it may really help your confidence in striking the ball. And if you ever feel "cross eyed, or blurry" on a shot, you definitely don't have your head in the right place.

Now anyone who's read my posts over the years knows I'm a feel player, I don't believe in aiming systems, and I believe strongly in nature over nurture. I don't take any of that back. However, getting the head in the right position sure feels like it may help me. Either that, or its a jam-up placebo!
  
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07-05-2020, 10:53 PM

My eyes, like most, are unbalanced besides mono dominant. To me, BFD. If you can see the layout clearly, what's the issue with discovering where the stick goes? Further, indulging perceptual distortion will require biasing your entire stance accordingly. It's also redundant in a way to get down and then re-aim to suit your perception.
  
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07-06-2020, 08:13 AM

I literally rolled out of bed this morning to play the ghost. No practice, the first shot was the break. I lost 7-0. But, I played out the racks where I missed anyway. The balls were generally going in super clean. I think I rubbed the rail on the way in maybe 1 time in the whole set. I was really hitting them well (for me). Several of the missed shots were due to throw or squirt where I didn't adjust enough. There were also a few shots that were super uncomfortable before, but now felt good. The break was not like yesterday, I lost the CB on almost every break. But the other shots felt really on.

I have the video below. Its sped 3x, 12 min long. Its fast enough I won't get bored watching it, but slow enough you can see I was striking the ball well, and the balls were going in the pockets very cleanly. I'll play more this week and still hope to post a winning ghost to 7 set.

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07-06-2020, 08:30 AM

Did a Skype session with Gene. He is an excellent teacher. My game improved noticeably.
IMO, Gene shouldn't call it Perfect Aim. AIM word out. It really has little to do with aiming. It's all about seeing. Give it a try, it's fun.
  
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My two cents - 07-06-2020, 09:10 AM

I have had the lesson from Gene and did this probably in 2015 or so...I don't recall exactly. What had me interested was the fact that I had noticed over the years that there were same days that I would get down to shoot a ball and could not for the life of me see the angle. I found myself struggling at times with some cut shots...not always mind you but there were days where I was "blind". So when I listened to Gene and had done the lesson, I realized this was the reason for my occasional issues. I can now say that this is something I do not suffer from any longer as I can now recognize it and address it properly. It was this insight as well as a lesson from Lee Brett that allowed me to work on some fundamentals (stance, pre-shot routine, aiming, etc). I also had some feedback from Dee Adkins on my stroke. Dee pointed out the issue with my stroke as I would have too fast a back-swing and I was using too big a stroke for softer shots. Anyway, it was all of these "lessons" that helped my game...I was already a B+/A player from just putting in time with leagues, at bars, and some gambling matches. Recently, I purchased a table of my own and I am working on putting in the time and fine-tuning all of the information I have learned. Hopefully, tournaments start back up because I am itching to play and see if the results are there for all of the above. I still think consistent practice and focused table time are going to make the biggest impact as it takes this effort to truly implement anything that is learned.


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Just wanted to let you know.
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Just wanted to let you know. - 07-06-2020, 01:41 PM

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I literally rolled out of bed this morning to play the ghost. No practice, the first shot was the break. I lost 7-0. But, I played out the racks where I missed anyway. The balls were generally going in super clean. I think I rubbed the rail on the way in maybe 1 time in the whole set. I was really hitting them well (for me). Several of the missed shots were due to throw or squirt where I didn't adjust enough. There were also a few shots that were super uncomfortable before, but now felt good. The break was not like yesterday, I lost the CB on almost every break. But the other shots felt really on.

I have the video below. Its sped 3x, 12 min long. Its fast enough I won't get bored watching it, but slow enough you can see I was striking the ball well, and the balls were going in the pockets very cleanly. I'll play more this week and still hope to post a winning ghost to 7 set.

Video:
https://youtu.be/L_R5CQH_Yq4
I played in that tournament at Stooges Sunday at 4:00 after our skype lesson. I was a little weak and shaky because I forgot to eat. There were 21 players with some that could really play. Lost by first or second match. Race to 7 9 ball alternate break. Got some food in my belly and won the tournament double-dipping the same player that I lost to earlier . The cool part about this is I'm 68 years old and had a really bad heart fixed 3 years ago. I'll put my heart up against anyones right now. Before surgery I would always know what was going on with my heart, jumping and feeling like it was up in my throat. Now I don't even notice i have a heart. It just keeps doing it's job and gives me energy that I have never had in my lifetime.

Well. It's off to the fitness center. 20 laps in the pool and then heading down to shooter 9 ball tournament to use this refurbished heart some more.

I just hope the rest of my body can keep up with this heart. 68 feeling like I'm going on 39. Life is so good....

Oh, and by the way Nick, I'm trying to figure out a new name for Perfect Aim. Maybe , Perfect Eye-ology and how to fit the eye with stance , stroke and everything else involved in making the perfect shot. That's too long of a name though? The eye is the center of the universe when you're trying to make a pool shot. If you don't get it and keep it where it belongs nothing will work.

Can you imagine if the surgeon that did my robotic heart surgery had the wrong picture when he did my heart surgery? I don't think it would have turned out so good. He could have all the right tools to do the job but would have trouble for sure with the cuts and stitches

Pool is not heart surgery but No different sighting a pool shot.

Teachers everywhere have it right, but it all has to start from the eye and build it from there.

You need the correct picture going to the brain. We can manually make it better just by knowing how to do it. otherwise hit a million balls and good luck with that.

Thanks for everthing Nick. You are going to beat that darn ghost soon my friend..
  
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07-06-2020, 02:12 PM

A new name for Perfect Aim?

How about "Mother Aim?"

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07-06-2020, 07:32 PM

Can you imagine carpenters abandoning their squares and pencils for eye school?
  
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07-07-2020, 06:05 AM

New names - See-Right? On-the-Line? Easy Lane? Easy Line?
  
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I literally rolled out of bed this morning to play the ghost. No practice, the first shot was the break. I lost 7-0. But, I played out the racks where I missed anyway. The balls were generally going in super clean. I think I rubbed the rail on the way in maybe 1 time in the whole set. I was really hitting them well (for me). Several of the missed shots were due to throw or squirt where I didn't adjust enough. There were also a few shots that were super uncomfortable before, but now felt good. The break was not like yesterday, I lost the CB on almost every break. But the other shots felt really on.

I have the video below. Its sped 3x, 12 min long. Its fast enough I won't get bored watching it, but slow enough you can see I was striking the ball well, and the balls were going in the pockets very cleanly. I'll play more this week and still hope to post a winning ghost to 7 set.

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https://youtu.be/L_R5CQH_Yq4
Must be rough...

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07-07-2020, 07:23 AM

I agree itís not really an aiming system. But, Gene has branded it ďPerfect AimĒ for the past 10 years, so probably no point in changing it now. It would just dilute his brand recognition.
  
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07-07-2020, 07:59 AM

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After teaching for about the last 12 years, 5 of which I stayed on the road for 5 years, I have come to a very definite conclusion. Over 3,000 documented lessons finding and correcting dominant eyes while aiming a pool shot.

Most lower level players are opposite eye dominant. The reason they struggle so much with their game is the sights on the gun are crooked.

Example: Let's say you are right handed, left eye dominant. Even though you are right handed the cue would be a little to the left of your nose somewhere to see the shot most correctly. Like lining up the sights on a gun.

Because the cue is in the right hand, the right eye is on the right side and the shot looks good in the preshot, Right or left eye dominant, the player is starting out in the right eye dominant position and never gets over to where the shot looks the best at all or hardly ever.

Once this is corrected the results are off the charts for lower level players. The difference is like night and day. I have seen this over and over, from pool hall to pool hall.

This is something that nobody has ever totally figured out ever. How the eyes actually work while aiming a pool shot.

This is the main reason that many players stay at a lower level. 3's and 4's stay 3's and 4's forever.

Once a player rated a 3 learns how to get the eyes correct it is almost impossible to stay at a 3 level. The results are usually pretty drastic and for the better.
Great "insight" here!


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Thumbs up Thanks for your input Jay. - 07-07-2020, 06:19 PM

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Great "insight" here!
I'm still trying to help players play better.
  
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07-08-2020, 06:12 AM

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Can you imagine carpenters abandoning their squares and pencils for eye school?

Not if you want a straight home, or building. Out her wise balling with get you a crappy builds.

That is why basic straight foundation is critical.

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